First off, there is no warez type of stuff going on here folks! He just could not come to grips with it, and moved on to Reaper. When I mentioned that I just got the new version of BiaB with all the toys he mentioned he had it sitting in his desk. I could get it for cheap off of him, but I would only use it for the TC Helicon program, so it is not worth it to me.

I personally have not liked PTPA since my first serious use of it at version 3.5....NOT because it was bad, it was fantastic for MIDI! But I do more audio than midi, thus it didn't fit ME well.

I am really intrigued by RB tho, because I can see this getting used to work up arrangements of RT to a 80% level, and then going to my main DAW to finish the tracks off using my favorite VST's. This is why I was wondering about the TCH program & V9, it would be nice to keep program swapping down to a minimum....and like was mentioned for $29 you really can not go wrong, now can ya?!

Thanks for all the responses folks, they did help!

i5 3.20GHz, 32gb RAM, 1tb SSD OS, 12tb HDD, 4gb gForce vid card, 32" monitor, Audient id44, Win10 x64, BiaB/RB 2023, Reaper 6,IK Multimedia Total Studio 3.5 MAX, Waves 10