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Yes, I know I should know this already but I've simply not had the time to really test out the VST. I have been reading all the posts about it however.
Peter says he and thousands of users are happy with it. Ok, I'll accept that but what exactly does it do for us that simply using D&D doesn't?
People are saying the generation times are very long, like 3-4 minutes in the VST compared to 30 seconds with Biab by itself.
That's just one point. There are dozens of others, so many in fact I'm completely confused as to what this thing is supposed to do. I thought it would be a replacement for Real Band for example. RB is a DAW that many think is sort of primitive as far as DAW's go so if a Biab VST is now available, is it supposed to work exactly the same as Biab itself or what? Biab inside whatever DAW anybody is using really makes RB redundant, correct?
If it's some sort of stripped down version of Biab then that has never been mentioned so I guess what I'm clumisly asking here is what are the parameters of the VST if it doesn't work exactly the same as Biab itself?
Peter posted a few days ago that they're working on videos for each DAW showing how it works. It sure would have been good to have had those ready to go when this whole thing was released because I don't have a clue.
Bob
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hi bob for me what I use it for its the multy riff part and its working great for me however when I try to do to many things that I think will do the job its gets very slow user error on my part say I want a sax to carry the weight of the song or the hook type in chords and and what style out it comes and I am sure realband does the same im still learning a work in progress thanks and I am sure pg is going to make it better and better eric
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>> OK, I'll accept that but what exactly does it do for us that simply using D&D doesn't?
- You are working in your DAW, not in two programs at a time.
- The chords you type in your song are saved and opened with your DAW project, not in a separate BB file. If you send a DAW project to your friend, he gets the chords and setup for BiaB as well.
- Settings from the DAW are read in to the plugin. Currently it is just tempo, but we will add more as time goes on. When we add the vst3 version (very soon, in a patch release), it can start to add lots more features. There are lots of cool features that vst3 can do, and they are all on our drawing board.
- It is much simpler to use than BiaB. Remember that many people have asked us for a simple version, and many of these are DAW users unfamiliar with BiaB. Remember the posts about "I showed BiaB to my friend, and he said it looked too complicated". So that's a big plus of it as well. When a DAW user sees a similar chord window popup, with a style selection and a Generate button, it shouldn't get the response "this looks too complicated."
- We expect a new version of the plugin to be released here in a free patch that adds a vst3 and fixes any plugin-not-found by DAW issues. That's in pre-release testing now.
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
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>> OK, I'll accept that but what exactly does it do for us that simply using D&D doesn't?
- You are working in your DAW, not in two programs at a time.
- The chords you type in your song are saved and opened with your DAW project, not in a separate BB file. If you send a DAW project to your friend, he gets the chords and setup for BiaB as well.
- Settings from the DAW are read in to the plugin. Currently it is just tempo, but we will add more as time goes on. When we add the vst3 version (very soon, in a patch release), it can start to add lots more features. There are lots of cool features that vst3 can do, and they are all on our drawing board.
- It is much simpler to use than BiaB. Remember that many people have asked us for a simple version, and many of these are DAW users unfamiliar with BiaB. Remember the posts about "I showed BiaB to my friend, and he said it looked too complicated". So that's a big plus of it as well. When a DAW user sees a similar chord window popup, with a style selection and a Generate button, it shouldn't get the response "this looks too complicated."
- We expect a new version of the plugin to be released here in a free patch that adds a vst3 and fixes any plugin-not-found by DAW issues. That's in pre-release testing now.
Peter, I agree with all of the above as great benefits of the plugin but my experience is that tempo is not read when used in ableton(maybe better in other DAW's), render times are very slow when loading a previously created BIAB song and even slower when trying to use multi riff. When the chords are typed into the plugin itself performance is much better but still slower than RB. While maybe not during this patch are these items that are being addressed?
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thanks peter looking forward to the update awesome thanks eric
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Thanks Peter, that helps.
Bob
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