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Do you think that the Plug-in is worth the upgrade from 2016? I know that the RealTracks alone are worth the Upgrade but "nothing is broken" at this point. I'm running SOnar 8 64-bit and have no issues with the old "drag and drop" method. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

It says that I'm a newbie but my first BiaB was Band-in-a Box 10 and Pro Audio 7...

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You don't havew to use the plug-in you can still carry on working the way you are familiar with. The plug-in was a new feature that there had been quite a demand for and it is still a work in progress. However the fundamentals of the program work exactly as before so you could still drag and drop files. You would of course have all the extra new realtracks to drag and drop.

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Thanks, Tony. I don't mind dragging tracks over--just a little time consuming with my current processor. I think the celtic flute RTs will be amzing since I don't have a great flute sound on my synth (a Korg n364) and I like the celtic stuff on BiaB. I've always been a great fan of Alex Acuna's percussion stuff as well. Thanks again.

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Originally Posted By: funkycornwall
You don't havew to use the plug-in you can still carry on working the way you are familiar with. The plug-in was a new feature that there had been quite a demand for and it is still a work in progress. However the fundamentals of the program work exactly as before so you could still drag and drop files. You would of course have all the extra new realtracks to drag and drop.


The VST plugin was the main selling point of this upgrade for quite a few existing users and it doesn't work, so there is no need to discount the people who purchased this upgrade for the VST plugin as if they are irrelevant and should just pretend to be happy to pay for something that is " still a work in progress".

The VST should have been advertised as a "work in progress that is unusable as a DAW plugin" if that's what it is, instead of a "new and exciting feature".

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Originally Posted By: funkycornwall
You don't havew to use the plug-in you can still carry on working the way you are familiar with. The plug-in was a new feature that there had been quite a demand for and it is still a work in progress. However the fundamentals of the program work exactly as before so you could still drag and drop files. You would of course have all the extra new realtracks to drag and drop.


The VST plugin was the main selling point of this upgrade for quite a few existing users and it doesn't work, so there is no need to discount the people who purchased this upgrade for the VST plugin as if they are irrelevant and should just pretend to be happy to pay for something that is " still a work in progress".

The VST should have been advertised as a "work in progress that is unusable as a DAW plugin" if that's what it is, instead of a "new and exciting feature".

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Yeah, the prototype of some things is rarely bug-free, but at least someone is addressing our "wish list". If I could only learn to play the piano without having 42 takes...:)

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...however it won't generate anything for toffee. The progress bar starts to move and craps out after a few seconds on both DAW's with both audio solutions I've tried.


As a test, try leaving it for up to 10 minutes and see if it finally completes the Generate.

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Yeah, the prototype of some things is rarely bug-free, but at least someone is addressing our "wish list". If I could only learn to play the piano without having 42 takes...:)


The BIABVSTi is not a "prototype of some things is rarely bug-free, but at least someone is addressing our "wish list"" - it seems like it was never properly tested and and not a true VSTi.

Perhaps it was thrown in too soon, to be able to use it as an item in a "new feature list" for marketing.

I hope I'm proven wrong.


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I wonder if setting bb\bbw4.exe to Run As Administrator would help or does the vst run it in admin mode already ?

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I tried setting the bbw4 and bbw64 to Run As Admin - the first time it froze Reaper. The next time I am getting the following error.

That's as far as I can get. I am using the BIAB HDD drive "R".

I have v2016 installed also, with my library on drive G which is where the vst wants to default to initially - I had to change things in the Pref of the VST


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what is R:\bbbbw4.exe - certainly that don't exist.


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It looks as thought there is a missing delimiter in the path name.

Do you have an R:\bb\ folder?

When you set the name, is it possible to enter: 'R:\bb\' instead of 'R:\bb' (manually include the trailing backslash).

If their code does not check for or call the IncludeTrailingPathDelimiter function, it may cause exactly what you have witnessed.


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I just right clicked bbw4.exe > Properties > Compatibility > Check Run As Admin
Check the paths in the vst preferences has the backslash at the end of each location \

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no, bbbbw4.exe does not exist.

However, I did add a "\" to each line in the Pref and I no longer get that error.



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I just right clicked bbw4.exe > Properties > Compatibility > Check Run As Admin
Check the paths in the vst preferences has the backslash at the end of each location \


Yes, that's how I set to Run As Admin... the issue was the "\" was missing in the Preference/paths

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Are you ok now or do you still feel like it's a "new feature list for marketing"? It's a serious question, I'm trying to get a handle on this too.

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I am sure PG Music will iron out these issues over time - to take such a powerful program and boil it down to a VSTi is, I am sure, a huge task.

I am keeping the 2019 BIAB, as it is a great program the way it is now, and I am happy with it.

The way it runs now allows me to keep my DAW latency very low.

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the issue was the "\" was missing in the Preference/paths

Great. The program should have added that if needed. I'll report it.


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Thanks. The text example for each of the paths in the Preferences does not include a trailing "\" - good catch by you.

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The VST plugin was the main selling point of this upgrade for quite a few existing users and it doesn't work, ...

No, I am not new :-), and reading all the problems will prevent me buying the upgrade.
I do not like to buy a software with the hope, that severe problems will be sorted ourt. Often this hope will not come true.

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