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A true pro might not mention he has a masters for years if ever. A true pro knows who he is and could care less if everybody knows or not. If you were at a party and someone whispered in your ear the room was full of PhD's you might not be so quick to brag about your masters. There's some pro's on this forum who are better educated than you and are quite well known to the public and I'm being serious here. You can read their bio's on their company websites. You would be amazed at who is using Biab in their studios. There's also complete amateur hobbyists who are just messing around and a bunch like me who are somewhere in the middle.
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Ok, this is not a win win situation, but I've got to get back to you ….

Look, I completely disagree with you on this. At best, it could've convinced me when I was 7 years old . Your definition of a "True Pro" was a failure. That whole paragraph was a classic fallacy. You are contradicting yourself. Company website??? Why go that far? I just looked around on this forum little bit, and found a lot of information about accomplished musicians. According to you, they should not have posted those information on here right? They should not have shared their music? In fact someone on this thread just said that he sat in the trumpet section for years. Is that bragging? It'd be totally impossible and something totally meaningless to do if everybody kept to themselves about their accomplishments and passion. We get a lot of new users on duc, and other forums on regular basis. They usually start their first post, with a problem that they have. When I know what their background is, and who I'm talking to, it makes it so much easier to target the problem, and have a conversation with them based on the level of their knowledge. If they wanted to keep it a secret "forever" we would have no idea where to start from. You can't jump to a conclusion like that based on some lousy definitions. You just accused me of bragging. I gotta say you're being too insecure! Although, i'm %100 sure, that's not the case, and you might just be a nice guy, but you asked for it. If I were you, I wouldn't even try using that definition again. It's a bit childish and out of this world. You’re not gonna be able to use this definition at all, if you want to have an intelligent conversation with pro musicians.

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I would like you to start a thread about Melodyne. I've read about it, seen the demos and I think you're the only one who's posted here who actually has it. I think it sells for around $500 or so right?
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oh, no, I’m already responsible for creating the worst thread ever in this forum. I better not risk starting a second one. As far as the price goes, I bought it about 4 years ago. I bought the one that had all the features (I think it‘s called Studio or something), but I don’t think if it was that expensive. I got it through the school though. Oops I bragged again. lol


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You have to take into account the fact that the basic Biab and Real Band is like half that not counting all the Real Tracks so when one function or other doesn't measure up to another product, you have to take that into consideration. This creating chords function is a complete minor sideshow compared to what Biab really is. That creates a totally new song from scratch in whatever style complete with melody, chords, a bridge and a title that you can copywrite. I totally agree with your comment about the advertising btw. It's technically correct, it will give you some chords but reading the ad, it implies it would do it a bit better than it does but that's commerce.



Amen to that.I never said anything against it. Let me quote myself. I clearly said at the very beginning that Biab was a great software. And it was not a problem if it couldn’t do that one thing. And I left it there, but that didn’t go very well with some of you. You wanted to prove me wrong at any cost , no matter what I said. Some even found it so shocking that I was asking about generating a chord progression based on a single melody. As if I broke a religious taboo or something. Just take it easy. There’s so much information in a melody that a software could use to make more educated guesses. Those information are there, but at this point, Biab doesn’t know exactly what to do with them, so it just spits out some random chords that are somehow related to the key or not. That’ll eventually change. I would not recommand Biab for a student who’s only interested in this feature. But i would certainly recommand it for a lot of other things that it CAN do.That’s all I was trying to say. If you add a bass line, or harmony, you’re actually telling Biab what chords to pick. That’s more like filling in the blank. That’s not generating chords based on a melody. I never said Biab is useless. If you can’t accept that,it’s up to you. I wasn’t asking for my money back or something like that. You’ve got to make some room in this forum for something that could show imperfections little bit. That’s the only way to improve products. Ganging up, and trying to make someone look bad with weak arguments won’t get you far. Had I known that simple question was going to turn into this…so much time got wasted. Oh well, life is hard when you’re not a “True pro”. Feel free to delete this whole thread if you like. I gotta thank people who tried to help though.