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Come to think of it: Manfred Steinberg invented this doggone ASIO thing ..... ASIO ...
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James, this is again a very useful clue. I don't recall any other software in which the particular brand of ASIO driver makes such a difference as this one does.
And yes, as Fiddler says, Steinberg developed the idea to have audio bypass the operating system in this way. I wonder if this particular driver is doing something new.
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It took me a week to get this right with my Stealth asio plug guitar interface. It was all in setting it to run in admin mode.
This admin non admin.What a pia.
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It took me a week to get this right with my Stealth asio plug guitar interface. It was all in setting it to run in admin mode.
This admin non admin.What a pia.
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It took me a week to get this right with my Stealth asio plug guitar interface. It was all in setting it to run in admin mode. This admin non admin.What a pia. IMO that means that (ONCE AGAIN) permissions are set 'wrongly' by windows. I regularly have to use 'take ownership', even while i run my whole system as administrator. Also once in a while i have to use Tweaking.com's Windows Repair AIO. And mark fix all permissions, running in SAFE mode. Then USE 'take ownership' especially on the Program Data, User and even Windows folders after that. Quite often too also to do with running software from an external USB drive. Permission issues with Windows 7 were far worse, but Windows 10 is getting the hang of it too. At times Juction Box also can fix issues with Program Data and double set 'shortcut junctions', but it's hard to understand how to use latter tool correctly; its kind of a programmers thing .... F
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The only thing I never tried was using ASIO4All as the driver for the Steinberg interface. I'll try that sometime.
Using Administrator priveleges didn't change anything either, in my case, but I've had that issue crop up on other apps.
I'm just happy that I can finally use BIAB again. Dang, I missed it! 8-)>
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Installing the driverd as admin.and set permission by RT clicking the program file once installed,click properties/comparability and check. "run as admin. If that doesn't work same screen run the comparability test.Thats what it took me.
ASIO for all is not the answer.
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The only thing I never tried was using ASIO4All as the driver for the Steinberg interface. I'll try that sometime.
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Jim Gee, I hope it doesn't come to that. The irony here is thick: Steinberg invents ASIO, Steinberg makes a sound card, and you try to make it work by using a driver that isn't ASIO but a wrapper that simulates it. I have lost track without re-reading the thread, but what happens when you use the MME driver?
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It took "run as admin. And run in compatibility mode for my Stealth.
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I forgot one step I had to do after failure. I first uninstalled the Stealth. Then the tricky part. I had to use REGEDIT to remove every registry entry for the Stealth.
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No matter what I did it failed because I improperly installed the first time. I had to edit the registry, install it with the right person ions and now it's perfect. Your symptoms are identical.
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Matt,
MME worked fine. That's what I had to use to get it to work. WAS also worked after the update (I can't remember if it did before), and by then the ASIO driver also "worked", except for the other issues.
Silvertones, I'll try your method when I get a chance. Right now, even though I'm not a big fan of this Behringer Audio Interface... it IS working. It may be time for me to save my pennies to get a new audio interface... maybe a different brand this time! lol
Putting all of my plugins on to a new computer, as well as other programs, etc. is like starting all over from scratch. Especially when I have to contact the companies (WAVES, Izotope, Native Instruments, etc.) to move licenses from the old to the new computers Probably won't be fully operational for a couple of days yet.
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.....Especially when I have to contact the companies (WAVES, Izotope, Native Instruments, etc.) to move licenses from the old to the new computers Probably won't be fully operational for a couple of days yet. Jim I usually buy the software when it works OK, like a Waves bundle this year in a 80% off deal. Had friggin' licensing issues, and also with their Waves Central installing all sorts of unwanted bull creating at least two new ASIO slots etc. you have to remove again manually. A studio owner-friend suggested to install an older illegal Waves version; he experienced too many issues with a lot of software and licensing errors. Especially during a job when clients wait or hired musicians have to be paid, while the computer is down unnecessarily ... No wonder so may legit users install hacked versions afterwards. I gave up on IK and their Amplitube & Sampletank because of that. Any one interested in buying my license, LoL? Hackers run away laughing they say ...
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One thing that I noticed when my Roland UA25-EX was not working with BIAB is that it DID WORK with RealBand.
610 fixed BIAB for me.
Regards
Graham
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That's a very interesting point, Graham! It would be nice to know what the difference is between the two programs, that causes this.
Thanks,
Jim
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I'm not a big fan of this Behringer Audio Interface I do like my Behringer UMC404HD interface except for one major annoyance. You can't monitor anything going into it through the line output; only through the headphone jack. My workaround was to hook my four port headphone amp to the headphone connection on the Behringer with headphones connected to one of the four ports (to listen with phones) and my powered speakers connected to one of the other ports. Not the best solution, but works for now. Each port has its own separate volume control.
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jford,
I wasn't trying to disparage the UMC404HD, just that it's not my favorite. I actually like the mic preamps better than the Steinberg UR22, and it's quieter!.
But when I play back I really have to crank up the volume on the UMC404HD (to 3:00 position) to get the same level as the Steinberg does at the 11:00 position. I realize I can increase the volume on my monitors as well, but they have a detent on the volume control at 50% and I like to use that.
Other than that the only other thing is having to have a separate power supply for the UMC404HD. It's inconvenient, but I also think it's a good idea. Just wish there was a power switch!
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An often made 'mistake': Sometimes higher audio levels seem to sound better .... .. the only other thing is having to have a separate power supply for the UMC404HD. It's inconvenient, but I also think it's a good idea ..... Jim That's usually the way with 'cheaply' constructed audio hardware lowering noise levels. ------------------ Now i wonder if these UR22 problems persist if you UNINSTALL all audio drivers completely, especially eventual old Yamaha Steinberg ones, and also remove all entries regarding those in the registry, then properly reboot ... i guess ASIO4all does not help out? F
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I'm using an IK Multimedia USB product... it worked perfectly fine until I upgraded 2018 to 2019 (64-bit). When BB opens I get the error message "unable to open stream... error -9997" It allows me to select the item in the audio drivers, but I get that message the USB device will be silent, etc. I did the update to no avail. I called dozens of times... never any answer... no emails are being answered. Anyone figure this out yet? By the way, the 32-bit version works just fine... it's the 64-bit that's having a problem... and I do have a 64-bit computer.
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I am having to reset my RME ASIO driver upon each launch.
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