pipeline, interesting workaround, but I believe this will not solve rendering individual VSTs channels to Wav from BIAB. Right now, BIAB exports those channels! The problem is it steals drums and channel 12 I think and incorporates VST channels to BIAB mixer, making things sloppy. All they (they?) have to do is duplicate melody channel and make it independent, not associated with any stuff on the mixer except for master volume.
Strange that there is a communication with big and small companies between developers and those little human beings (like me, for example) who are using their products. A good example is Cakewalk. I was struggling with one particular bug, that was messing with my workflow for some time. I tried posting it on forum several times, but did not help. Then, I gathered all information and appealed to chief engineer directly. Yes, it took time, but not years I got the issue fixed in recent update. That alone flashes word "respect!" in my mind. Just saying...
I got a feeling that community members care more about fellow users than the folks listed as "developers" on BIAB "about" page.
From Wikipedia: Software developer. First line reads: A software developer is a person concerned with facets of the software development process, including the research, design, programming, and testing of computer software.
If you solo the midi track then drag the audio track that will give you the midi rendered through kontakt. But as I said I haven't read all the post. I just try and find workarounds as PG can take 10+ years to implement something.
Pipeline, thank you for experiment. My workflow is different. As some other members suggested, I like to stay in BIAB as long as possible, before starting to export stuff.
quote: "PG can take 10+ years to implement something."
Well it was "years" already, this is just one of those persistent reminders, you know the ones that happen if you forget to pay your bills on time
I found a few ways to deal with issue, so not huge deal, but my + Jims suggestion, if implemented, would give those many midi channels without extra hoops to jump to BIAB users.
The easiest way would be in RB, but with the new Biab Plugin that might be the way to go when it's all working well, the latest pre-release has the same render speed as Biab now.
To do it all in Biab they could have an 'Extra Tracks' button that opens a separate DAW style tracks window that you can drag n drop both Audio & Midi files in, as you get many user asking for extra audio tracks. This could have it's own separate mixer and on the BB Mixer have a Master slider for it, or maybe have an arrow at the bottom of the BB mixer that expands it to show all the current Extra Tracks. This way you could also drag a RealTrack/Drum into the Extra Tracks window, you could also Multichannel RealDrums into the Extra Tracks window giving you a lot more control over the Drums. But as said before they have the Plugin now and that may well take off in a big way allowing you to do it all without leaving the DAW, as it's more of a Revolution than an Evolution of Biab (BiaDAW). Maybe Biab will stay how it is for auto accompaniment, practice, learning, song writing etc... Instead of bringing the DAW to Biab they have brought Biab to the DAW. And ReWire added to Biab will give you all those Extra Tracks and could be easier to implement. But you never know, I've lost count of how many times over the years "Ya Flogging a Dead Horse give it up, Ya dreaming, give up these silly notions, that won't work...." so were they pipedreams that pipeline had ? well here we are with vst sync, 64-bit (& still have a 32-bit) and a BiabVST !!!
Pipeline, what I am asking is much, much simpler. A single track for VST sound module, that would be independent from other parts of BIAB mixer.
P.S. some months ago I did request a feature of lanes, similar to what you described, but that will unlikely to happen, but adding a single midi bus channel will add many independent midi tracks that can be fully controlled from VST interface, yet be a part of whole mix in BIAB.
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I got the issue fixed in recent update. That alone flashes word "respect!" in my mind. Just saying...
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