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For creating your "base line" tracks for a song, ie. bass, drums, rhythm instruments, it is quite easy.
The labor intensive part for me is to edit the background/fill instruments in my DAW to sit "in between" vocals (when there is no singing). In these instances, I have to create multiple takes of the fill instrument and cut out the sections I don't want and sometimes moving different fills to different places.
I think this can be solved in the BB interface as follows:
(Assuming the song is in 4/4)
On the song composition form, where you enter the chords for the song, draw 4 segments for each beat in the bar. In each segment, there can be a colored circle or square, for example. Let's say I entered all of the chords in and have my complete song ready. I have bass, drums and piano as continuous instruments. I also have three fill instruments, guitar, mandolin and fiddle. Now I can play the song back while singing and, for example, if in the 3rd bar, 3rd and 4th beat there is a break on vocals, perhaps because that is the end of a line in the verse, I can click the icon which can launch a window.
This window can reference my three fill instruments, the guitar, mandolin or fiddle. I can then select guitar for these two beats. Let's say 3 bars later I have the same situation but instead I choose fiddle, and so on. Since Band in a Box already has these "licks" recorded, instead of having them piled on each other, they can be selectively played according to the users choice.
There might also be an option to "lock" or "regenerate" that particular fill on that bar as well, so they don't all regenerate if you regenerate the song.
If the 7 tracks in the mixer interface are color coded, this can be used as an easy reference. For example, when I am looking at the chords and see the box or square in the segment, if there are green ones scattered about, I can glance at the mixer and see the fiddle is the green track and I would know that's where the fiddle fills are.
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Hi, I like this idea of having BIAB automatically generate snippets of lead instruments in the gaps between vocals. Like you, this is something that I do manually in my DAW by generating and exporting multiple takes of these lead instruments within BIAB and then chopping them up to fit within my DAW.
What would be even better would be the ability to regenerate each snippet individually over and over again until you got a perfect fit - which as you suggest you could then ‘freeze’ so that it doesn’t regenerate with the rest of the song.
I think that you can do something like this already in Realband (i.e regenerating an audio snippet) but it would be great if you could do this within BIAB.
+1 from me!
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Aubrey,
As well as RealBand, the new for 2019 Band-in-a-Box VST Plugin will let you generate multi-riff "audio snippets" in the plugin.
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Hi Jim,
You are absolutely correct. The new plugin version does allow a multi-riff generation which you can then comp within your DAW to edit down to the final riff. As I understand it though I think that you can only generate one multi-riff phrase per song (I.e. over one contiguous set of bars). This sounds like it would be perfect for coming up with a lead instrument break. What Justin is proposing though is to be able to generate lots of little lead riff phrases throughout the song in the gaps left between vocals - which is something that you commonly hear in commercial songs.
My further suggestion is the ability to be able to go on further regenerating each individual riff until you hear one you like which you can then freeze. That would save on the comping effort.
If I am wrong and you can already do this via the plugin multi-riff function then that would be brilliant!
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I believe that might be a feature of the plugin later now I think only one MR. However you could remove the MR and generated another. I was able to insert 2 BiaB VSTI s once.
As far as filling in between verses Realband does that pretty well if you just take time to lay it out properly. You can multiriff there and in several places. I have done comping in RB, not as smooth as Studio one or Cakewalk but still doable.
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