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Last edited by Don L Turner; 01/11/19 06:03 AM.
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I got an email from support saying the 611 build fixed these issues. It fixed a couple...the song picker will now load to the current song and any song will play when doubled clicked. However, you still can't select the first letter of the next song and have the list jump to the songs that begin with that letter.I have sent another email pointing this out.
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Yes, yes, and yes. Also, support for a large number of songs is still not fixed. It is supposed to support up to 50,000 songs. My folder with 40,000 gets processed, but it only displays a subset (I can tell because it stops at the letter "L". You bump up against an arbitrary file size limit (at least that's what the error message seems to indicate).
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Some sorts need at least twice the size of the records being sorted, for the sort to work. Think of a Move as a Copy followed by Delete. Granted, these are inefficient algorithms, but it might be what's happening here. It would seem the limit should just be increased and then we'll know.
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I want the old whatever picker back, and mine's bigger  : +1
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I got an email from support saying the 611 build fixed these issues. It fixed a couple...the song picker will now load to the current song and any song will play when doubled clicked. However, you still can't select the first letter of the next song and have the list jump to the songs that begin with that letter.I have sent another email pointing this out. They also still need to bring the ability back to start up BIAB in the last used directory instead of the Home folder. I, like many other BIAB users, have many home folders, not just one.
Last edited by jcland; 01/11/19 07:52 AM.
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+1 to all of this. Can't believe that PG threw one of the best song features out with the trash. Can't sort by title, tempo, key, date, style...you have got to be kidding me! Don't understand the rationale for this at all.
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+1 to all of this. Can't believe that PG threw one of the best song features out with the trash. Can't sort by title, tempo, key, date, style...you have got to be kidding me! Don't understand the rationale for this at all.
Jeff Jeff: I would love to hear PG Musics rational on this decision. It obviously was discussed at some pre-planning meetings for the 2019 upgrade.
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Was any of this picked up in beta testing? It seems so fundamental but no one noticed it; I just don't see that happening
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We are the beta testers ....
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No, No. The other, pre-release folk. Somehow this problem was not found, or PGM didn't fix it
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No, No. The other, pre-release folk. Somehow this problem was not found, or PGM didn't fix it I think - but have absolutely no proof - that there was much excitement from PG Music about introducing new features in the new Song Picker (preview of chords, setting the home folder etc) that other established functionality was overlooked. A ridiculously short time-frame was all that was allotted for pre-release testing. Regardless, you can be assured that the song picker issues were found and reported.
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you can be assured that the song picker issues were found and reported. But has there been any acknowledgement from PGM that this is a problem and that it will be fixed?
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But has there been any acknowledgement from PGM that this is a problem and that it will be fixed? All I do know is the answer to the above is yes and yes. No mention of when though. I did think this would be sorted out by now.
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Thanks VT
PGM often seem to hurry to bring new features to market at the expense of ensuring that they 1)really work, and 2) don't affect an existing feature. This is not the first time it has happened, and for sure it will not be the last.
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PGM often seem to hurry to bring new features to market at the expense of ensuring that they 1)really work, and 2) don't affect an existing feature. This is not the first time it has happened, and for sure it will not be the last. They are not alone. There is an uproar over on the Kontakt site because Kontakt 6 eliminated the all important database. So if you want an oboe sound for example you have to remember where it was located. Many of us have a lot of Kontakt and third part patches so that database was important.
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PGM often seem to hurry to bring new features to market at the expense of ensuring that they 1)really work, and 2) don't affect an existing feature. This is not the first time it has happened, and for sure it will not be the last. They are not alone. There is an uproar over on the Kontakt site because Kontakt 6 eliminated the all important database. So if you want an oboe sound for example you have to remember where it was located. Many of us have a lot of Kontakt and third part patches so that database was important. To be fair, I have used Kontakt (and tons of other music software products) and have never seen an upgrade that had broken features anything like the BIAB VST.
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PGM often seem to hurry to bring new features to market at the expense of ensuring that they 1)really work, and 2) don't affect an existing feature. This is not the first time it has happened, and for sure it will not be the last. They are not alone. There is an uproar over on the Kontakt site because Kontakt 6 eliminated the all important database. So if you want an oboe sound for example you have to remember where it was located. Many of us have a lot of Kontakt and third part patches so that database was important. To be fair, I have used Kontakt (and tons of other music software products) and have never seen an upgrade that had broken features anything like the BIAB VST. A quote for quote's sake, and that's not some Japanese rice drink: this doggone VST seems more useful to me, if it works and i wouldn't have to set my Cooking Alarm for 10 minutes each and every time i throw it in the ring, than the VideoTracking business from last year ever was. So let PG face it's own music; who knows they'll come up with a great tool after all ... but i'm fed up testing it, i'll wait 'till there's a green light ... And we need more fixes than only the VST BTW.
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PS There's sometimes too much quoting business going on ....
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PS There's sometimes too much quoting business going on .... May I quote you on that?
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