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For musicians who want -1, Melodyne is probably a far better tool as you can just remove the instrument you want removed from the original track. If you want to sing and play, then remove the instrument from the CD+G backing track.
Oh duhhh! That's a great point, Sam. I've been posting in several Melodyne threads the last few days and didn't even think of that.
Btw, what's your favorite source for those tracks?
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SoundChoice are pretty good as are SunFly. There are others but these two companies are probably the industry leaders. Just Google 'CD+G Karaoke tracks'
If you want the lyrics to still show up, remember to make a copy of the backing track using a different filename and then edit the original file. The backing track MUST have the same as the lyric file. You could even run it through the ACW and add the chord names into the lyric file but that is a little more complicated, or create a new lyric track in the backing file and then use the karaoke window. There's more than one way to skin a rabbit, you know
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Anyone here thought of it.
With the way real tracks uses real instruments I think there is a great open door to make backing tracks that would be better than any midi file backing tracks company out there.
It would take a few of us and it would take a while to get going. But with the material in real tracks and great wisdom and talent of a few folks here, we could do a good business and work from home doing what we love.
Anyone interested? Anyone have any ideas. Of course we would do it all legit and pay the royalties and license fees.
Ed, hasn't this this market been served for some time by online companies like Comtracks, Hands On, and Hittrax who sell audio/MP3 backing tracks? Or have I misunderstood your suggesion?
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Companies like the ones you mentioned are selling midi generated tracks. There are no real instruments.
It seems though the general consensus is that there are too many karaoke and backing type companies around already we may get lost in the shuffle even if we have something unique here.
All I know is Real Tracks did for me what no other company could have done.
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What was accomplished with realtracks on your project was pretty amazing, Ed.
Listening now, after not doing so for a while, I have trouble remembering what is a realtrack and what isn't!
I am very happy it has been such a success for you already.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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Well, this is a sample of what you'd be competing with: Alan McPike Alan sells his track for about 5 pounds ($8) each. Check his site out, it's pretty impressive what he's doing. I'm sure you could get some pretty good ideas from it. Bottom line is you're going to have to sound this good if you want to make any money off of it. Good luck with your venture, knock'em dead.
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This is an example of what's wrong with a lot of backing tracks, imho. The actual instruments especially the piano parts are very good but the drums totally suck. It appears he deliberately went for the electronic sound, no attempt at realism. I don't like the mix either. Good karaoke tracks are much, much better than this.
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I think you folks could do better with the RT/RD..... 
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I don't know what others actually listened to, but I began with the Female 1 - 4XX songs, and all intros were fairly impressive to my aging ears, with use of strings especially so. I think he sets a pretty high standard, with what looks like a very extensive catalog ballads and jazz standards, although there could be weak links in particular genres, styles, etc... Also, for what it's worth, I heard no wind instruments, or guitar in anything, as though he sets his arrangements up for keys, bass and drums with string augmentation for most everything. What he uses, he uses well.
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I just went thur the site at random, and tho I found the arrangements OK, the rhythm sections felt "stiff" to me....and of course this is all IMHO.
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Companies like the ones you mentioned are selling midi generated tracks. There are no real instruments.
No, man you're not going to the sites Sam recommended. He's our Karaoke expert on this forum. Some people in this thread think that somehow Karaoke is different from the backing tracks we're talking about. It's not, it's just a name. Check this out Sound Choice
This site has thousands of songs and it looks like they've got every popular artist from the last 50 years covered. These are most definitely full blown studio productions using live players like what I was talking about earlier. No midi here. I've only heard a few of them and they are gorgeous. Just type in Sinatra and then listen to the demo of My Funny Valentine and then type in Journey and listen to Be Good To Yourself. Of course I searched for Chicago and heard Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is. Then just for laughs I put in Tower of Power. No funk stuff but they have So Very Hard To Go. Awesome. Great playing including the horns, great production and background vocals too. This is just one site, there's lots of others.
If I was doing a single or duo for a living and needed a few hundred covers I would just buy them, not mess around trying to reinvent the wheel. Biab is great and a lot of fun especially if you like rolling your own but really other than that, why bother when this is available?
Now, I'm a live player and personally would never use these but all I'm saying is IF I were trying to really make a living out of this, then these tracks could be a good way to go. Every time I go to Vegas, most of the lounge acts are using these types of tracks. I hate it because I miss the live groups since I used to be in one of them at Harrah's but that's the reality of it. Singers with tracks. Sure, there's a few exceptions but mostly that's true.
You can't touch this sound with your computer and some software.
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