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I wouldn't say using backing tracks is cheating, personally. For a small time local musician, hiring a whole band isn't possible. We have the resources now, might as well use them.  If you're a big name artist though and still using backing tracks, I'll find it questionable. Almost any pop music act is using backing tracks these days. Everyone.
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Here in the Orlando 'jazz' scene - tracks ARE considered cheating...despite my duo's extensive/creative jazz standards repertoire, we can't buy a gig in the so-called 'jazz rooms'... we had one steady gig at an upscale restaurant that was always advertised on the local PBS gig calendar - until 'someone' called them & said we were using tracks, and they refused to list us after that...what we do is unique - 90% of our list consists of 2 song 'medleys' - segueing one song into another (with similar chords/feel) and then back into the first...for example - Haven't We Met into Bluesette and back into HWM: https://soundcloud.com/dennisanddodi . The other tracks are with vocals and are mini-versions of our tunes. I've spent countless hours creating these tracks with BIAB, but due to the 'tracks are cheating' attitude of jazz clubs/musicians in this area, we are gig-less...
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Here in the Orlando 'jazz' scene - tracks ARE considered cheating...despite my duo's extensive/creative jazz standards repertoire, we can't buy a gig in the so-called 'jazz rooms'... we had one steady gig at an upscale restaurant that was always advertised on the local PBS gig calendar - until 'someone' called them & said we were using tracks, and they refused to list us after that...what we do is unique - 90% of our list consists of 2 song 'medleys' - segueing one song into another (with similar chords/feel) and then back into the first...for example - Haven't We Met into Bluesette and back into HWM: https://soundcloud.com/dennisanddodi . The other tracks are with vocals and are mini-versions of our tunes. I've spent countless hours creating these tracks with BIAB, but due to the 'tracks are cheating' attitude of jazz clubs/musicians in this area, we are gig-less... Well doesn't that just bite? I could see a club that advertises and is known for full bands only..... doing that... but all of them? But hey... I guess it's their choice.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Here in the Orlando 'jazz' scene - tracks ARE considered cheating...despite my duo's extensive/creative jazz standards repertoire, we can't buy a gig in the so-called 'jazz rooms'... we had one steady gig at an upscale restaurant that was always advertised on the local PBS gig calendar - until 'someone' called them & said we were using tracks, and they refused to list us after that...what we do is unique - 90% of our list consists of 2 song 'medleys' - segueing one song into another (with similar chords/feel) and then back into the first...for example - Haven't We Met into Bluesette and back into HWM: https://soundcloud.com/dennisanddodi . The other tracks are with vocals and are mini-versions of our tunes. I've spent countless hours creating these tracks with BIAB, but due to the 'tracks are cheating' attitude of jazz clubs/musicians in this area, we are gig-less... Well doesn't that just bite? I could see a club that advertises and is known for full bands only..... doing that... but all of them? But hey... I guess it's their choice. My take on this is that the musician's union is very strong in Orlando. YMMV
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With few (if any) exceptions - the musician's union is non-existent here in 'Mouseland'... and seriously, the pay is not significantly different than when I was here in '75 with a bar band...me thinks it's time to move !!
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Music is a journey that has no end.
No matter how much you know, there is more to know.
Jazz is a music that must be played in order to grow.
Your setup allows you to play out and learn and grow.
That is a beautiful thing.
Musicians will come along as time and opportunity present themselves.
Perhaps you will find a like minded bass player.
Guitar/Bass Jazz duo is a great setup with lots of room.
Over time a drummer will show up, They always do.
Meanwhile,just keep playing, playing, playing.
Work on those melodies. Hear the notes before you play them.
Don't ignore the comping. Perhaps some drop 2 voicings into your solos like Wes used to do?
As The late great David "Scotty" Scott once said: Play the Guitar, brother.
That's all that matters.
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Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
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Band-in-a-Box User Video Tutorials!
If you've reviewed our Support page, you've probably noticed the Videos page, which separates our Band-in-a-Box® tutorial videos by category: Overview, VST DAW Plugin, Setup, Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced, and there's even an Archive category to go down memory lane... (You'll also find these videos on our YouTube Channel.)
It's always great to hear how other Band-in-a-Box® users create their songs, especially when they explain in detail what they're doing. Like Henry Clarke's YouTube Channel, Henry Clarke - Senior Musicians Unite! There you'll find his ALL Band-in-a-Box Tutorials playlist with over 50 videos! His top-three most watched videos include "How to Get Started with Band-in-a-Box," "How I use the Audio Chord Wizard in Band-in-a-Box," and "How to Create An Effective Solo Using Band-in-a-Box" - however he touches on many other topics and also demonstrates his own Band-in-a-Box® songs in the Band-in-a-Box Created Songs playlist!
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Video: Making a Song with Band-in-a-Box®, ChatGPT, and Synth V
Take your Band-in-a-Box® project to a whole new level when you incorporate ChatGPT and Synth V to add lyrics and vocals to your song!
We wanted to demonstrate how this is done with our video, where we show you how to go from nothing to a finished "radio ready" modern pop song by combining the features of Band-in-a-Box®, ChatGPT, and Synth V!
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