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Originally Posted By: Deryk - PG Music
I wouldn't say using backing tracks is cheating, personally. For a small time local musician, hiring a whole band isn't possible. We have the resources now, might as well use them. smile

If you're a big name artist though and still using backing tracks, I'll find it questionable.


Almost any pop music act is using backing tracks these days. Everyone.

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Here in the Orlando 'jazz' scene - tracks ARE considered cheating...despite my duo's extensive/creative jazz standards repertoire, we can't buy a gig in the so-called 'jazz rooms'... we had one steady gig at an upscale restaurant that was always advertised on the local PBS gig calendar - until 'someone' called them & said we were using tracks, and they refused to list us after that...what we do is unique - 90% of our list consists of 2 song 'medleys' - segueing one song into another (with similar chords/feel) and then back into the first...for example - Haven't We Met into Bluesette and back into HWM: https://soundcloud.com/dennisanddodi . The other tracks are with vocals and are mini-versions of our tunes. I've spent countless hours creating these tracks with BIAB, but due to the 'tracks are cheating' attitude of jazz clubs/musicians in this area, we are gig-less...

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Here in the Orlando 'jazz' scene - tracks ARE considered cheating...despite my duo's extensive/creative jazz standards repertoire, we can't buy a gig in the so-called 'jazz rooms'... we had one steady gig at an upscale restaurant that was always advertised on the local PBS gig calendar - until 'someone' called them & said we were using tracks, and they refused to list us after that...what we do is unique - 90% of our list consists of 2 song 'medleys' - segueing one song into another (with similar chords/feel) and then back into the first...for example - Haven't We Met into Bluesette and back into HWM: https://soundcloud.com/dennisanddodi . The other tracks are with vocals and are mini-versions of our tunes. I've spent countless hours creating these tracks with BIAB, but due to the 'tracks are cheating' attitude of jazz clubs/musicians in this area, we are gig-less...


Well doesn't that just bite? I could see a club that advertises and is known for full bands only..... doing that... but all of them? But hey... I guess it's their choice.


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Originally Posted By: dmrodes
Here in the Orlando 'jazz' scene - tracks ARE considered cheating...despite my duo's extensive/creative jazz standards repertoire, we can't buy a gig in the so-called 'jazz rooms'... we had one steady gig at an upscale restaurant that was always advertised on the local PBS gig calendar - until 'someone' called them & said we were using tracks, and they refused to list us after that...what we do is unique - 90% of our list consists of 2 song 'medleys' - segueing one song into another (with similar chords/feel) and then back into the first...for example - Haven't We Met into Bluesette and back into HWM: https://soundcloud.com/dennisanddodi . The other tracks are with vocals and are mini-versions of our tunes. I've spent countless hours creating these tracks with BIAB, but due to the 'tracks are cheating' attitude of jazz clubs/musicians in this area, we are gig-less...


Well doesn't that just bite? I could see a club that advertises and is known for full bands only..... doing that... but all of them? But hey... I guess it's their choice.


My take on this is that the musician's union is very strong in Orlando. YMMV


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With few (if any) exceptions - the musician's union is non-existent here in 'Mouseland'... and seriously, the pay is not significantly different than when I was here in '75 with a bar band...me thinks it's time to move !!

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Music is a journey that has no end.
No matter how much you know, there is more to know.

Jazz is a music that must be played in order to grow.

Your setup allows you to play out and learn and grow.
That is a beautiful thing.

Musicians will come along as time and opportunity present themselves.

Perhaps you will find a like minded bass player.
Guitar/Bass Jazz duo is a great setup with lots of room.
Over time a drummer will show up, They always do.

Meanwhile,just keep playing, playing, playing.
Work on those melodies. Hear the notes before you play them.
Don't ignore the comping. Perhaps some drop 2 voicings into your solos like Wes used to do?

As The late great David "Scotty" Scott once said: Play the Guitar, brother.
That's all that matters.


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