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I suddenly cannot save volumes and pan in the mixer with songs. I updated to build 625 and reset to factory defaults several times. The only fix is to disable saving volumes etc in the environment options in preferences. If unchecked, all songs revert to 90 and are panned to center. If checked all volumes revert to 0 and pan -63??

Anyone have an idea?

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This old gremlin just won't die. But try this: File menu, Save Special, Save Song with Patches and Harmony. It's also available by keystroke Alt+F2.


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Thanks for the tip. Working great as I slowly re-save all the songs the "gremlin" messed up
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Very good, and thank you.


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Yes, that problem resurfaces and it's surprising that it's never been resolved.


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It is odd that I've not experienced this. Once I am satisfied with the tracka, I freeze the tracks and save the SGU/MGU. When exporting to WAV, all the panning and effects are present in the WAV files.

Last edited by MikeK; 03/31/19 02:02 PM.

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Then Mike, either you know a Save method I don't, or you've led a charmed life for sure.


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I've had the issue before 2019 release. Not since the new release. Maybe, I AM just lucky. I've had to do very little mixing when collaborating with others who add vocals to my tracks. The only thing I've changed to the tracks generated by BIAB is volume to get the right balance between vocals and the instrumental arrangement.


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If you're using MIDI open Preferences with Ctrl + E and select the "MIDI Options" button. In the MIDI Options window make sure all the boxes on the right side of the window are checked except for "Drum Bank Changes". Most drum bank changes are not GM or GM2 compatible. See the top screen shot.

Now press the "Overrides" button. In the "Global Song Override" window make sure all the boxes for "Allow Songs to load settings for:" are checked. See the second screen shot.

Finally, when you're saving the song project make sure you use "Alt + F2" or "Files" > "Save Special .." > "Save Song With Patches & Harmony". See the bottom screen shot.

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Regarding "allow volume changes": This has been discussed multiple times in the past. The phrase "allow volume changes" is confusing because it doesn't allow you (the user) to change the volume, but allows the style definition to change the volume to whatever is defined in the style. So when you change the volume manually, then regenerate, it reverts back to whatever volumes are defined by the style. You need to uncheck the box to ensure your volume settings stick. There is a global override setting (don't remember where it is off the top of my head) that says to basically ignore whatever volume is set in the style file itself (which is where the checkbox is also found) and use the volume settings you specified. However, the global override (as I understand it) is local to your machine only. So if you have two computers, one set and the other not, you are going to get different results when you load the file. I don't know if the global override affects the saving of files or not.

In general, all the PGMusic styles should have this box unchecked for their styles, although in the past, a few of them slipped through the cracks. Also, I have found many of the Norton styles also has this box checked, as well. I can't recall if Bob Norton has changed this on later styles (it took me awhile to figure out why the Norton styles in general were louder than PGMusic styles and ultimately found they used a different setting).

Don't know if this is the problem, but definitely something to look at. Another thing to look at as well is if you have "normalize volume" checked. This affects the relative volume of each track as defined by your setting; however, depending on where you set it, you may find certain tracks will hit the ceiling of 127 (in the range 0-127).

Don't know if this will help you or not.


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