|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,823
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 10,823 |
I believe it's all a matter of perspective.
However....
Rap isn't country no matter how many banjos you put in it.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 8,987 |
I believe it's all a matter of perspective.
However....
Rap isn't country no matter how many banjos you put in it. Agreed, Rap needs more cowbell.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,114
Expert
|
|
OP
Expert
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,114 |
hi I believe it's all a matter of perspective.
However....
Rap isn't country no matter how many banjos you put in it. Rap *rap!  I agree but many country numbers had spoken lyrics I seem to remember a whole Jim Reeves album called “Talking to my Heart” With tracks like The Amen Corner, The Shifting Whispering Sands, and more. Also Old Tige (Jim Reeves) Talkin' To Your Heart (Vinyl, LP, Album) album cover Jim Reeves – Talkin' To Your Heart Label: RCA International (Camden) – INTS 1425 Format: Vinyl, LP, Album Country: UK Released: 1973 Genre: Pop, Folk, World, & Country Style: Country Tracklist A1 Trouble In The Amen Corner A2 I'm Waiting For Ships That Never Come In A3 Annabel Lee A4 The Gun A5 The Farmer And The Lord A6 The Shifting Whispering Sands B1 Old Tige B2 Why Do I Love You (Melody Of Love) B3 (Far Away Feeling) The Spell Of The Yukon B4 Men With Broken Hearts B5 Too Many Parties And Too Many Pals B6 Seven Days Credits Engineer – Bill Porter Liner Notes – Don Richardson, Sr.* Producer – Chet Atkins Other things by other artist like Deck Of Cards (Wink Martingdale) And many more. Still at least you could hear the words . Mike 
Last edited by Mike Head; 04/08/19 12:34 PM.
BIAB2021 UltraPlus,AsusN55S1Tbssd, W10/64,Akai EIEpro Yamaha CVP405,SquireStrat, CoolsoftVMidSynth Novatation Impulse61 Ctr kbd, Cwalk blab Kontakt http://mikesmusic.byethost16.com/
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 464
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 464 |
It's much more rock-oriented. Drums sound bigger and there is a rap element. It has also expanded its audience.
One thing that strikes me is the guitar playing. I grew up playing rock and blues. I played in a country band for a few years. Being a bar band, we also played rock, so our style was a little edgier. We were playing on the Wheeling Jamboree one night and the announcer chewed me out for not playing like a country guitarist. When I hear country now, I hear a lot of rock licks. Maybe I was ahead of my time. Or, as usual, the wrong place at the wrong time.
2b
i5-3210 laptop. Win 10 Home. 2.5ghz, 64 bit. 6gb RAM. Focusrite Scarlet 2i2.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,414
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,414 |
I find a lot of what is wrong with modern country music - or I guess, what I dislike about modern country music - is how forumulaic, simple, and heartless it sounds. The bulk of it is pretty alike to me, both musically and lyrically. It is barely what I'd call country. It's pop with a twang. There's some exceptions. If anybody here isn't aware of his stuff, I definitely suggest looking into Sturgill Simpson. He's by far my favourite modern country artist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg209CadVQM
Cheers,
Deryk
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,589
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,589 |
I find a lot of what is wrong with modern country music - or I guess, what I dislike about modern country music - is how forumulaic, simple, and heartless it sounds. The bulk of it is pretty alike to me, both musically and lyrically. It is barely what I'd call country. It's pop with a twang. There's some exceptions. If anybody here isn't aware of his stuff, I definitely suggest looking into Sturgill Simpson. He's by far my favourite modern country artist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg209CadVQM I hadn't heard of him before this. This is one hell of a song. I'm going to look for more of him and if his other material is like this I'm buying the CDs or vinyl.
Back in my day the only time we started panic buying was when the bartender shouted "last call"!
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,298
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,298 |
I find a lot of what is wrong with modern country music - or I guess, what I dislike about modern country music - is how forumulaic, simple, and heartless it sounds. The bulk of it is pretty alike to me, both musically and lyrically. It is barely what I'd call country. It's pop with a twang. There's some exceptions. If anybody here isn't aware of his stuff, I definitely suggest looking into Sturgill Simpson. He's by far my favourite modern country artist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg209CadVQM Yes, he is pretty great. I'm not sure why, but there is this small part of me that feels he is doing everything he can to not be at all formulaic. Like that is HIS formula. I'm not sure if that makes sense? Either way, he has some great songs; and I feel, some great surprises in some of them. In Bloom really caught me off guard. lol But his music is somehow all over the place; yet all sounds like him. For me, that would be hard to define and pull off; but it's really impressive.  He must be doing something right. He gets plenty of plays.
Last edited by HearToLearn; 04/09/19 08:11 AM.
Chad (Hope that makes it easier)
TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,414
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,414 |
I find a lot of what is wrong with modern country music - or I guess, what I dislike about modern country music - is how forumulaic, simple, and heartless it sounds. The bulk of it is pretty alike to me, both musically and lyrically. It is barely what I'd call country. It's pop with a twang. There's some exceptions. If anybody here isn't aware of his stuff, I definitely suggest looking into Sturgill Simpson. He's by far my favourite modern country artist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg209CadVQM Yes, he is pretty great. I'm not sure why, but there is this small part of me that feels he is doing everything he can to not be at all formulaic. Like that is HIS formula. I'm not sure if that makes sense? Either way, he has some great songs; and I feel, some great surprises in some of them. In Bloom really caught me off guard. lol But his music is somehow all over the place; yet all sounds like him. For me, that would be hard to define and pull off; but it's really impressive. He must be doing something right. He gets plenty of plays. I agree actually - but I think there is a charm to his "formula" or lack thereof. I find nothing wrong with it, since it's a breath of fresh air. And about In Bloom - again, I agree. If you ever told me I'd willingly listen to a country cover of a Nirvana song I'd call you a liar, but here we are.
Cheers,
Deryk
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,741
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 2,741 |
Here is what really happen. We had really good and smart country players who were selling lots of records. Then rock came along and just about took over everything. It was a really big deal but after a while rock sort went into a decline.
Remember I said we had smart country players. That got to talking and said while these rock guys are having a hard time and they are pretty drugged out not paying much attention lets steal that three chord rock, put a steel pedal guitar and a county twang to the vocal and call it new country.
Something about a country boy can survive comes to mind.
Of course the rock guys got really irritated being angry and rebels to begin with and started playing as fast as they could possible play which was fun to watch for about five minuets. With all the drugs and alcohol and super high speed rhythmic noise that did not last to long.
We all know what came next straight out of Compton and a few other places like it. So now they would like to take over the Grammys, and have Rap chart on the country billboard.
So, for all of you who have no sense of humor the above was written in a joking manner....just a disclaimer. But the only real joke is it is all true...lol
The good news is there is room enough in the world for every kind of music and we have pretty good tools to create most anything we like here on the forum.
Cheers.
Billy
“Amazing! I’ll be working with Jaco Pastorius, Charlie Parker, Art Tatum, and Buddy Rich, and you’re telling me it’s not that great of a gig?
“Well…” Saint Peter, hesitated, “God’s got this girlfriend who thinks she can sing…”
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 2,996
PG Music Staff
|
|
PG Music Staff
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 2,996 |
I believe it's all a matter of perspective.
However....
Rap isn't country no matter how many banjos you put in it. Agreed, Rap needs more cowbell. Always more cowbell! Ahahaha.
Cheers,
Ember
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,591
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,591 |
Hear to Learn:
If you should see this post, you remarked there
is a lot going on in music, today. I'd like
to hear your summary on that, and where you might
think it is going.
By the way, one factor that has not been mentioned
much is the digital revolution.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,851
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 8,851 |
Well, in reference to 'real country', it appears I may have been ahead of the curve. Recently a rap artist recorded a song titled "old town road". It charted on three different genres including country but after a few weeks, it was pulled from the country charts and it was stated there were not enough elements of country. A remix has been released using Billy Ray Cyrus for some of the vocals. What does that have to do with me being ahead of the curve? Of course it's much better produced and higher quality and such, but a few may recall a song I posted back in 2017 titled "Passing Through" - the two songs use very similar instrumentation, tempo and other similarities. I posted my song on SoundCloud and listed the genre as ---- Country... I removed the song from SoundCloud sometime back but looking through the comments, it's noted my use of a banjo, sparse instrumentation and unusual and sparse lyrics. Just sayin' … Here's a link to the comments from the post. Passing Through
Last edited by Charlie Fogle; 04/13/19 02:04 PM.
BIAB 2025:RB 2025, Latest builds: Dell Optiplex 7040 Desktop; Windows-10-64 bit, Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz CPU and 16 GB Ram Memory.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913 |
Used to be country music was where you found interesting story songs.
Used to be country music was performed on the front porch more than on the radio.
Used to be country music didn't have to be about pickup trucks, girls in cut-off shorts, and beer. Lots about beer, but not the other two.
Used to be that country music had instrumental wizards who were great entertainers.
Used to be that country music had clever turns of phrases that would bring a smile to the face.
Good news is that this still exists, but you might have to look harder for it. Some are out in the forefront. Kasey Musgraves, Jason Isbell, Chris Stapleton for a few examples - but others you have to dig deeper.
But this is true with all music styles. If you want the interesting stuff, it isn't going to be on the radio.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,298
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,298 |
Hear to Learn:
If you should see this post, you remarked there
is a lot going on in music, today. I'd like
to hear your summary on that, and where you might
think it is going.
By the way, one factor that has not been mentioned
much is the digital revolution. Hey Ed, That is a great question; that I wish I knew the answer to. I have thoughts on it; which I can elaborate more on tomorrow. I'm bringing a few of my kids to a concert today. Road trip. 10 hours driving to put smiles on their faces. Again, thanks for starting the thread.
Chad (Hope that makes it easier)
TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,298
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,298 |
Well, in reference to 'real country', it appears I may have been ahead of the curve. Recently a rap artist recorded a song titled "old town road". It charted on three different genres including country but after a few weeks, it was pulled from the country charts and it was stated there were not enough elements of country. A remix has been released using Billy Ray Cyrus for some of the vocals. What does that have to do with me being ahead of the curve? Of course it's much better produced and higher quality and such, but a few may recall a song I posted back in 2017 titled "Passing Through" - the two songs use very similar instrumentation, tempo and other similarities. I posted my song on SoundCloud and listed the genre as ---- Country... I removed the song from SoundCloud sometime back but looking through the comments, it's noted my use of a banjo, sparse instrumentation and unusual and sparse lyrics. Just sayin' … Here's a link to the comments from the post. Passing Through Hey Charlie, I read your post and the comments at the linked post. What are the chances I could hear the song? I would really love to hear it!
Chad (Hope that makes it easier)
TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,298
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,298 |
A man walks in to Cabela's to get items to fly fish. That's the kind of fishing he likes. Of course, they have WAY more equipment in the store for other types of fishing; and even other sports! But he just goes to the area that is "his thing"; makes his purchase, hops in his vehicle and he is on his way with a big smile on his face. No complaints. If only music worked that same way. The music from "back in the day" is still on the radio. There are stations for pretty much anything. I have stations near me that are playing music from even the 30's! They are on A.M. but...if that's what you grew up on. lol Why people complain about stations playing music they don't like is beyond me. Why are you listening to it? If you're hearing music you don't like; change the damn station. Also, Chris Stapleton would NOT have flown on country stations back then. Not to mention, he writes for some of the new country artists people here seem to dislike. He even performs with non-country (gasp) artists too. And yet the people who complain about new country frequently point to him as "doing it right." Then again, he doesn't strike me as close minded. He respectful of others. It's hard not to like a guy like that; and I believe it has a lot to do with his success.
Last edited by HearToLearn; 04/14/19 03:16 AM.
Chad (Hope that makes it easier)
TEMPO TANTRUM: What a lead singer has when they can't stay in time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,589
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,589 |
A man walks in to Cabela's to get items to fly fish. That's the kind of fishing he likes. Of course, they have WAY more equipment in the store for other types of fishing; and even other sports! But he just goes to the area that is "his thing"; makes his purchase, hops in his vehicle and he is on his way with a big smile on his face. No complaints. If only music worked that same way. It does, but not necessarily on commercial AM/FM radio. You can pick your favorite genre of music on the Internet using a number of different players. You can also do the same with pay radio stations like SiriusXM radio or Pandora. There are options you can choose. PS - I know that Pandora has a free section also.
Back in my day the only time we started panic buying was when the bartender shouted "last call"!
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,021
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 8,021 |
There are only 2 types of music:
1. Serious aka classics and jazz.Trained schooled players that played only for the King and Queen
2. Folk aka music of the people. No formal training, no technique but lots of lyrics.
Call it what you want but if it ain't #1 it's folk music.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,251
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,251 |
A man walks in to Cabela's to get items to fly fish. That's the kind of fishing he likes. Of course, they have WAY more equipment in the store for other types of fishing; and even other sports! But he just goes to the area that is "his thing"; makes his purchase, hops in his vehicle and he is on his way with a big smile on his face. No complaints. If only music worked that same way. It does, but not necessarily on commercial AM/FM radio. You can pick your favorite genre of music on the Internet using a number of different players. You can also do the same with pay radio stations like SiriusXM radio or Pandora. There are options you can choose. PS - I know that Pandora has a free section also. I recently signed up for the free version of Spotify. I've been very pleased with it so far. The recommendations are are spot on, (no pun intended).
Last edited by bobcflatpicker; 04/14/19 05:56 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,591
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,591 |
Under the right conditions, my radio will play WSM Nashville.
I'm convinced they turn it up on Saturday nite. Sure, I could
get it on Sirius, probably, or online. There's nothing quite
like listening to WSM on an Am radio, crackles and all. Crane
sells an AM booster.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Update to Build 10 of RealBand® 2026 for Windows®!
If you're already using RealBand 2026 for Windows, download build 10 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® users: Build 904 now available!
If you're already using Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, make sure to grab the latest update! Build 904 is now available for download and includes the newest additions and enhancements from our team.
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® users: Build 1237 is now available!
Already a Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows user? Stay up to date and download the build 1237 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.
PowerTracks Pro 2026 for Windows is Here!
PowerTracks 2026 is here—bringing powerful new enhancements designed to make your production workflow faster, smoother, and more intuitive than ever.
The enhanced Mixer now shows Track Type and Instrument icons for instant track recognition, while a new grid option simplifies editing views. Non-floating windows adopt a modern title bar style, replacing the legacy blue bar.
The Master Volume is now applied at the end of the audio chain for consistent levels and full-signal master effects.
Tablature now includes a “Save bends when saving XML” option for improved compatibility with PG Music tools. Plus, you can instantly match all track heights with a simple Ctrl-release after resizing, and Add2 chords from MGU/SGU files are now fully supported... and more!
Get started today—first-time packages start at just $49.
Already using PowerTracks Pro Audio? Upgrade for as little as $29 and enjoy the latest improvements!
Order now!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!
Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!
We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.
Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!
Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!
We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
Happy New Year!
Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.
Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics86,108
Posts800,296
Members40,034
| |
Most Online44,367
Mar 4th, 2026
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean