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I would like to say a big thanks to everyone who has taken time to listen and comment on this track! I want to say right up front though that Ray deserves the vast majority of any credit on this one! He did all the heavy lifting here! As to the different comments on the mix, I would say that Ray did an excellent job with this! It seems the Rock genre invites so many different opinions on how drums, guitars etc. Should be louder or quieter. I dont necessarily agree that the vocal is buried to a level where you can't understand the lyric. After a couple of listens they become apparent. This is the same of many of the rock songs from back in the day. Country, Jazz and other genres are usually mixed with the vocal higher in the mix than a good rock song. At least to my ears. Anyway, once again thanks to all for your time to listen and to Ray for his dedication on this project!! I was honored to help!! T
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Very powerful song! Cool lyrics.
Love Torrey's vocal in this, nice to hear him rock out!
Vocal is sitting perfectly in the mix for me, drums could come up a bit though IMHO.
I think I like the second version better, but it's close.
Nice collaboration!
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Hi Ray, Torrey and Greg,
This is definitely one to be proud of.
All the best,
Noel Thanks Noel, I don't have any Waves plugs mate as they seem to gum up my DAW & computer combo. I appreciate the recommendation though - and I did some research as a result of it. That Drum plug doesn't seem to have a preset for a stereo drum file. I'll get there some day though. Thanks again.
Cheers
rayc
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Hi Ray, My observations are very simular to Floyds.
I also felt that track two was better. Very enjoyable,
Rob Thanks Rob, Oddly I felt the vocals were too loud for my tastes but about right for the genre and the drums too quiet for my tastes but again about right for the style. #2 - ta.
Cheers
rayc
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I would like to say a big thanks to everyone who has taken time to listen and comment on this track! As to the different comments on the mix, I would say ...It seems the Rock genre invites so many different opinions on how drums, guitars etc. Should be louder or quieter. T Thanks Torrey, I agree - some excellent comments and a strong group of "more drums" folk as well as "more vocal" to consider as the listening audience next time. It was a blast and the M.E. really liked the vocals.
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rayc
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Love Torrey's vocal in this, nice to hear him rock out!
I think I like the second version better, but it's close.
Nice collaboration!
Thanks Dave, I knew Torrey could make this one happen. He's a true talent.
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rayc
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Ray and Torrey,
Really good pop sound—reminiscent of R.E.M to me in spots . . . terrific vocal and backing, impressive guitar work in here as well. I think the drum gets a bit lost . . . where for me it should really be driving this tune a little bit more—they seem more present in the second version, but still don’t pop like they should (for my tastes at least).
Good tune—keep working it and you’ll have a killer tune right here.
All the best,
Deej
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Nice old school punk song, I prefer the second version, it's brighter and vocals are clearer. I also think that it's better to have this lo-fi version than one with modern power drums, just for nostalgic reasons.
I wouldn't have recognized Torrey if asked, but he sings very well in the right style.
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Hi Ray,
I prefer the second version more than the first. But it was a close call.
It has to do with the power of the song was more in the second version. And the instruments sounded clearer. The way they followed the vocals(in the chorus I think)I liked more.
But as I said, a close call.
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Good song. Well done. I prefer #2 also. The vocal seems a little more up front perhaps, there is more clarity maybe. They are extremely close. I sent 'Dakota' to be mastered by an engineer who offered a free demo. I was surprised at how close it was to my own. I don't think the average listener would notice, but the demo was less harsh I guess. Smoother. I assume because of some analog compression, but not positive. I went with my own version. The only other song I sent out for mastering is 'Bayou In My Blood.' On that one I could really tell the mastered version was much better and had that professional sound - whatever that is:)
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WOW, killer rocker!! Great energy, and I really like the melody and alternating rhythm of the quick succession of words with those that are strung out a bit. REALLY nice job, and Torrey was GREAT!! Take care. Greg
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Ray, Torrey,
Very powerful rock!
I love this guitar sound. Really nice.
Very catchy sound.
I agree with floyd.
Torrey's vocal fits the song nicely.
The drums seem a bit low for the overall power of the song also to my ears.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.
Best regards.
Shigeki Adachi
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