In addition to Noel's excellent advice, presumably you have turned on Editable Notation Mode?
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The note editor is a little unusual but once you get the hang of it it is quite practical.
Notes are essentially all created to a long length and then shortened to adjust to meet the next note placed on the stave. You can further shorten a note by adding rest(s) at the appropriate location.
Don't use 'Force Accidental' to change the F to an F#. Edit and change the note value to a Gb. It will then show correctly (depending on the key signature of course).
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Matt, I tested and placed an F on the stave then edited the note and selected 'Force Accidental' to a Sharp and it caused the note to show as an E, as the O/P had described. I suspect that was what was occurring. Selecting Gb instead worked fine.
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In a fresh song, key signature of C, I enter an F (natural) on the editable notation.
I right-click on the note, Edit Note, Force Accidental, Sharp. I get E#.
That's right; that's enharmonically correct.
Next I right-click on the note, Edit Note, change Note using the arrow controls to F#. Force Accidental still says Sharp. I get F#.
That's right.
Next I right-click on the note, Edit Note, change Force Accidental to Auto. The F# in Note changes to Gb. That's annoying, but it still works.
Then I change Force Accidental to Sharp. The Gb turns to an F#. This is a bit mind-bending, but it works.
So, tell me the problem step by step that makes something NOT work. And tell me the key signature of the song, whether any transposition setting is in effect, and the chord at that point.
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I use the shift, Cntl, and Alt buttons as I enter the note. If you hold down these keys as you add the note it will make it sharp, flat or natural depending on which key you use. It's fewer key strokes as well
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In a fresh song, key signature of C, I enter an F (natural) on the editable notation.
I right-click on the note, Edit Note, Force Accidental, Sharp. I get E#.
That's right; that's enharmonically correct.
Next I right-click on the note, Edit Note, change Note using the arrow controls to F#. Force Accidental still says Sharp. I get F#.
That's right.
Next I right-click on the note, Edit Note, change Force Accidental to Auto. The F# in Note changes to Gb. That's annoying, but it still works.
Then I change Force Accidental to Sharp. The Gb turns to an F#. This is a bit mind-bending, but it works.
So, tell me the problem step by step that makes something NOT work. And tell me the key signature of the song, whether any transposition setting is in effect, and the chord at that point.
You seem to be doing what I did but you have different (correct) results. I started with an F and making it sharp resulted in an E which is wrong.
I am not aware of any transposing. I simply started afresh and entered the chords. It plays the chords correctly at the correct pitch. I did not enter any signature either so it should be just C.
I gave up last time I did this. Reason was that I was not able to extend the notes to the correct length of 1 and 1/8 bar. Every time I added a note into the 2nd 8th of the second bar (after the extended note), the duration of the extended note (1 + 1/8) changed automatically and I was not able to fix it.
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Thanks. You answered two of my questions. The key signature is C and there is no transposition in effect. How about the third question: what is the chord at the point you enter this note? I’m just trying to figure out why our results are different.
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For example, I entered an F by clicking it in place. Then edit the note by right click->edit note. I then make the F a sharp.
Zoom, the F became an E instead of an F#! That problem seems repeatable.
It's not quite clear what you try to express via 'I then make the F a sharp'.
Maybe you tried to have an F dispayed as E# via clicking on 'Sharp' within the Force Accidental note edit dialog at some entered note E? The Force Accidental dialog just affects the display of accidentals - it won't change notes, such as an E to an E# or F for that matter.
But then again, 'the F became an E instead of an F#' sort of doesn't make sense at all.
We likely need just more info here.
For what it's worth, the Edit Note dialog works here like a charm.
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