I know there must be a way to do this but I can't figure it out. I have a song with 6 verses, the first five recorded find but the last has some issue. I want to keep the first 5 and only record the 6th. Suggestions please...
Probably need more information. What kind of setup do you use? Daw, Deck, Software? One thing is to maintain sync with backing tracks, one of BB best features.
I agree with rharv. Doing the recording for the faulty verse would be easiest in Realband (if you have Windows BIAB). That said, if you want to give recording in BIAB a try, the below PG Music video might give some clues that will help.
Is it not true that Tom is talking about a very common practice in the old analog studios that was known as "punching in." If a musician hit a wrong note, the engineer would wait for that very spot on the tape and press "record" for just long enough for the musician to sneak in the correction. Sounded natural. The alternative was to manually cut the tape with a razor blade and insert the correction. As multi track and mixdown became more sophisticated, other techniques developed. We are in the age of the DAW. The tracks always sync. Wouldn't the easiest thing be to re-record the verse, using the same accompaniment as the original, mute the bad part, move the good part around on a separate track until the timing matched? That all speaks in favor of consistency of production standards, in case you have to go back into a production later.
<<< Is it not true that Tom is talking about a very common practice in the old analog studios that was known as "punching in?" >>>
It's not wrong to call the technique that but it's my understanding where Tom would re-record the entire 6th verse to be more accurately termed overdubbing. The two terms are frequently used interchangeably and it wouldn't be at all unusual to hear someone say "we'll come in tomorrow and punch in the 6th verse." Your explanation of "punching in" accurately describes the punch in/out process.
If I were assisting Tom with his recording, I would start the recording at the first bar of the 6th verse and record the entire verse. I would continue to record several additional takes of that verse and then review the various takes in small sections and choose the best section from each take and comp those various sections into a single rendition to compile the total verse. That's overdubbing when recording the tracks and comping when editing to create a single track from the combined tracks.
In this example, assume after recording and saving four takes of the 6th verse, there was still a two word phrase in each take that was unsatisfactory. I would have Tom record just that two word phrase by punching in and out between the start and ending of the phrase to correct that specific phrase in the verse.
If you are recording MIDI to the melody (or soloist) track ("Melody, Edit Melody Track, Record Melody" or "Soloist, Edit Soloist Track, Record To Soloist Part"), the "Record MIDI" window lets you either record from the start of the song, or from a particular bar. Unfortunately, it doesn't give you a stop point; however, since this is the last verse, it should work whether you have an unfolded song or not. (See the first image below)
If you are recording audio (press Record Audio button), it also has a similar feature, but also has a punch in feature to specify which bars to record. So, while I haven't tried this, I suspect you could check the box to also record MIDI (if that's what you want) with punch-in settings set, then just delete the resultant blank audio file (I'm guessing this "should" work, but it would probably take you five minutes to figure it out). (See the second image below)
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Those comments clarify and add, Charlie and jford. I'd like to try recording in BB , Noel. Come to think of it, in usage, punching in often suggest a very short correction, like a bad note, where time is money. I overdub all the time. I consider it part of the process, a benefit of multi track recording. Arm a track, put on the headphones so the mike doesn't pick anything up, press play/record, and have at it. From there, options include cut, silence, mix with faders, or turn down the original vocal track and make a new one.
If you do try recording in BB edshaw, take note of the audio recording image posted by jford for a moment.
There is a check box for a procedure called: Overdub underlying audio and a similar worded overdub feature for MIDI.
If you are okay with using a preset mix, checking this box allows you to record additional takes on the single audio track available in BIAB and a mix preset will merge the two audio takes into a single audio file. You can do this multiple times which means you can double vocals or a solo instrument, add harmonies or backing vocals all from within BIAB, never leaving the program and for all practical purposes, have a multi track mix on the single audio channel. The only editing control you will have is the option to save or reject a take. You should experiment with it as the results can be surprisingly good. Takes can be done in bits and pieces throughout your song by also doing Punch ins/outs.
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