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Totally agree with Floyd this has plenty of feeling. Catches attention and keeps you listening. Thanks, Rob!
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great job I like the nylon guitar sounds awesome on this the tone is awesome Thanks, Eric! I love all the instruments from Indignus, because they sound great and are really playable. The Renaxxe is one of my favorites. I try to make the guitar parts something that I could actually play on the nylon string... if I practiced more.  To some extent, these instrumentals are just excuses to finally use the cool instruments that sound really neat. I assume that lead guitar is sort of like that, too.
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-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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At the risk of redundancy that is a GREAT instrumental. Hi, J&B! I'm glad to hear from you.  It nailed, IMO, the melody - certainly melodic enough to be rich and interesting but not so much that one gets lost or distracted in complexity. Thanks! I was thinking that this time I'd add a proper bridge, but I guess the guitar part served that function. Both of us found the production backstory fascinating...so beyond the little ditties we mostly come up with. Hey, you aren't allowed to say anything bad about those "ditties"! The measure of the success of a song often has little to do with the work that went into it! Then again, sometimes stuff percolates forever and finally comes out. So it's hard to measure, right? PS If you have Neutron 2 there is a preset that we like for fiddles of all genres named "Solo Violin" and is located under the orchestral section. We use it as is only adding a little verb. If it's the same one I tried, it didn't seem to have much effect. The EQ seems to give it a bit of a lift, but I couldn't hear much. My ears aren't that good at hearing detail, so there's that. These days, I figure if I can't hear what the effect is doing, I should probably leave it off. I'm not entirely sure what sound floyd was expecting from the violin. I was sort of leaning more toward the fiddle when I first played it, but that was in a lower register. In the higher register it's a sweeter sound, but I've set it so that as I play louder, it moves the bo toward the bridge, so it gets a bit harsher. I like the change in expression, but that's probably the timbre he's talking about. With that in mind, I've done some tweaks to the violin, and will probably put out another mix when I get a chance. But first I need to be sure the new version is actually better.  PPS floyd mentioned the stereo expander...we use one also (the Imager from Ozone 8 adv). And as he mentioned it works very nicely guitars and for us also on pianos. Thanks! I'd actually already had a stereo expander in the chain, just before the mastering plugin. But I'll definitely look at using it at the instrument level in the future. The guitar RT track was panned a bit (on purpose), but I went back and fixed that in the intro (in the as-yet unreleased mix). Since - on top of that - the RT was recorded a bit off-center, I panned it a bit to re-center it, and then ran it through the stereo expander. I routed that off to another buss, so I could control the panning. Hrm... sounds a bit like gluing something back together, and then hitting it with a hammer again. But increasing the stereo spread emphasizes the squeaks in the RT. That's not intrinsically bad, but spreading them over the stereo field isn't best. Plus, widening the spread changed the perceived volume, and then I started tweaking other instruments as well. I just need to make sure I didn't make things worse in the process of making them better.  Thanks again!
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A lovely flowing melody embellished by the nylon guitar and flute in particular so well. Hi, Robert. I'm glad you enjoyed it! It's nice to be able to "show off" the lovely sound of some of these instruments. 
-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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I was originally waiting for a singer to come in - but truthfully, it doesn't need it. It holds plenty of weight as an instrumental. Thanks, Deryk. The singer was waiting for the lyricist, but since nothing was there, he picked up the EWI instead.  I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the nice words.
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Nice changes, and great job with the instruments! Thanks, Steve! Good to hear from you, and I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the encouraging words! 
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Very nice!
I love the melody you came up with, very memorable, and the EWI sounds great. Also like the changes and the arrangement.
Thanks for the production notes, an interesting read!
Enjoyed the listen. Second listen actually, I listened yesterday but didn't have time to comment.
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Very nice tune, like a movie theme with longing mood, reflects very well that soundcloud picture. Would be interesting to know what happened yesterday  I like the interplay of the nylon and the fingerpicking guitars. The flute melody is especially beautiful. For this kind of gentle instrumental, the drums sound bit hard in the "B" section to my taste. Very interesting to read your backstory, I never polish details that much, maybe I'm just satisfied for less  Janne
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Very pretty tune David!! Acoustic guitar and cello work beautifully! To me, the snare is too aggressive for the feel of the song. I think I'd like more of a chuga-chuga shaker feel. Wonderful composition!! Take care. Greg
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That's a wonderful use of those realtracks David! The mix/production is fabulous! Thanks, Torrey
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-- David Cuny My virtual singer development blogVocal control, you say. Never heard of it. Is that some kind of ProTools thing?BiaB 2025 | Windows 11 | Reaper | Way too many VSTis.
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Thanks for stopping by and listening, Ed. 
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Would be interesting to know what happened yesterday Yes, but that would require me writing lyrics. I like the interplay of the nylon and the fingerpicking guitars. The flute melody is especially beautiful. For this kind of gentle instrumental, the drums sound bit hard in the "B" section to my taste. I appreciate the feedback. What drums should sound like is elusive! Thanks goodness you didn't hear the first mix of the drums.  Thanks, Janne!
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To me, the snare is too aggressive for the feel of the song. Thanks, Greg! If I ever get that elusive second mix nailed down, I'll see what I can do. I appreciate the thoughtful feedback!
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The mix/production is fabulous! Thanks, Torrey! 
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I think most of the technical work has been commented on so I just had a pleasant listen. Nicely done - pretty melody and a well put together. Good work.
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This a lovely song flute is so nice with guitar. Excellent listen
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Very pretty David! I love what you did the guitar here.
The strings are super cool as well.
Great job!
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I think most of the technical work has been commented on so I just had a pleasant listen. Thanks, Peter. I confess - I've done exactly the same thing on many a thread.  I'm glad you enjoyed the listen.
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