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Re: update on realband!!!! F.M.M. #546955 07/26/19 12:47 PM RealBand
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rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,223 Mi., USA	A reset can be done by renaming RB.CONFIG and Realband.INI. On launch RB will rebuild them. Looking at my files, seems the last time I had to do that (or did during beta testing) was in 2013, but I'm pretty sure that is one trick. You can rename them back if needed and be back where you started in worse case scenario. However, I don't think this is the cause. I think yu're on the right track and it's either an ASIO conflict with another app, or an issue with the combination of selected options between RB and Windows. FWIW, for day to day use I use the 1010 MME drivers, changing to ASIO when I need to. I'll post my everyday RB/1010 driver settings in a minute. I send RB out 3/4 of the Delta and have that wired to my distribution/headphone amp and monitors. I don't use the multichannel out for RB .. not sure why, just something I must have learned in the past and never changed it. Your error report, as you explain it, says; undefined external error code 1 In my experience, if the error comes from inside RB it would give more data and clues (in an obvious popup). This sounds to me like RB was relying on something (driver?) that, when RB tried to use them, they returned an error message that RB can't interpret beyond 'a basic error code happened'. As for not hearing anything using MME, that's likely a combination of RB settings and Windows settings. /I've emailed support before too and had it take a while. Sometimes I've had surprisingly much better luck with Chat. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) RB_1010_MME.jpg (133.63 KB, 213 downloads) RB 1010 MME driver settings 1010-Windows_34out.jpg (48.7 KB, 211 downloads) Windows using 3/4 outs I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

Re: update on realband!!!! rharv #546964 07/26/19 01:49 PM RealBand
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OP F.M.M. Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,699	thanks rharv for information try lots of different combination play back is good however the error messages still comes I have never high lighted 4 inputs befor thought it would make it worst but didn't thanks so much for taking time to do this layout very helpful!!!!!! also just tried real band 3/4 out then tried biab 1/2 out they play having mme wdm drivers both programs up at the same time getting really close to the finish eric Last edited by F.M.M.; 07/26/19 02:01 PM. AMD (TM) 5950 4.9 GHz 16Core Processor 64 bit 32 bits of ram windows 10 pro 64 bit os. sound card Antelope ZenQ guitars Ibanez 2202a 1968 les Paul Custom and Cavin ae 185 Guitar boss Gt-100,GT1000 pedal Yamaha HS8 studio monitors

Re: update on realband!!!! F.M.M. #546971 07/26/19 03:00 PM RealBand
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rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,223 Mi., USA	If you don't need 4 inputs, select only what you need. That shouldn't be your focus here; it adds load to RB. If you use just 1/2 inputs for recording, select those (only) for inputs. Or 3/4 .. whatever; don't select extra inputs based on my above image. I often record 8 tracks at a time, you may not or (probably don't) need to. It was more of a reference to my RB/Windows settings. chat/support will be much more likely to solve this weird error message than I, just trying to help I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

Re: update on realband!!!! F.M.M. #547051 07/27/19 05:40 AM RealBand
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silvertones Veteran Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,021 Rio Grande Valley, Texas	Yea I've never seen this either. Must be a combo of computer config,delta Just one comment. A number of years ago a friend had a delta 1010 on an XP machine. He then had a new high end machine built for music with win 7. It just never worked right. Dropped drivers, noise etc. Can't remember all. He gave the delta to me as a spare. So... John ESI Gigaport HD+ Lenovo Turion II /4 Gig Ram/ Win7x64 be 15.6" Monitor "The only Band is a Real Band" www.wintertexaninfo.com/BANDS/JohnnyD.php

Re: update on realband!!!! silvertones #547060 07/27/19 06:29 AM RealBand
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OP F.M.M. Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,699	thanks rharv and john for helping me out I agree only use drivers that are needed things are working better then days ago error message drives me crazy at times why I would like to be using real band and able to playback and record MME it gives me more flexibility and I can us many different combinations dawns,music tools ect. as far as recording my guitar asio is the best some dawns will let me use MME and others and my gt 100 boss pedal has asio drivers however they are probably generic they work i hope support can help ps. real band works fine delta Asio drivers thanks again eric Last edited by F.M.M.; 07/27/19 06:35 AM. AMD (TM) 5950 4.9 GHz 16Core Processor 64 bit 32 bits of ram windows 10 pro 64 bit os. sound card Antelope ZenQ guitars Ibanez 2202a 1968 les Paul Custom and Cavin ae 185 Guitar boss Gt-100,GT1000 pedal Yamaha HS8 studio monitors

Re: update on realband!!!! F.M.M. #547184 07/28/19 06:22 AM RealBand
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rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,223 Mi., USA	Have you looked at your RBERROR.LOG file (caps intentional as that's how it shows up)? Normally found in C:\Realband (if you run RB on the C: drive like the default install). This will list errors that RB has logged and (often) the associated config for the system, which may give clues as to what was actually running. /If you want to try tracking it down I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

Re: update on realband!!!! rharv #547264 07/29/19 04:32 AM RealBand
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OP F.M.M. Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,699	just to mention one more thing not sure when there was a suggeston to down load viocemeeter when I was having problems with media player 9 I found the mixer very confusing so I uninstall it not sure there is any left over stuff on my computer I search a lot with no trace anyway thanks, all the errors are on post thanks again eric AMD (TM) 5950 4.9 GHz 16Core Processor 64 bit 32 bits of ram windows 10 pro 64 bit os. sound card Antelope ZenQ guitars Ibanez 2202a 1968 les Paul Custom and Cavin ae 185 Guitar boss Gt-100,GT1000 pedal Yamaha HS8 studio monitors

Re: update on realband!!!! F.M.M. #547327 07/29/19 12:44 PM RealBand
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rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,223 Mi., USA	Assessing errors in your RBError log; it looks like the last hard crash you had was on 7/17. And 7/9 before that. You originally posted on 7/23, so I assume what's in this log is not helping track it down if the error was happening around the 23rd and after. Did the issue start when you removed Voicemeeter? Did you remove it from the PGMusic PGPlugins list (in the FX window under Options there is a way to exclude it if it exists in the list). I suppose you could still have it in your PGMusic plugin list, and maybe even have RB trying to use it in a song .. and if it doesn't exist, I would expect weird errors if that is the case. Just a wild shot in the dark as more clues are supplied. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

Re: update on realband!!!! rharv #547354 07/29/19 03:06 PM RealBand
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OP F.M.M. Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,699	hi rharv well some good news and bad news the good news real band so far seems to work with asio gt 100 boss pedal drivers and I can run mixcraft with mme wdm and I am able to switch to delta asio both will operate in mixcraft, when both programs are on board as of now. today trying to get real band to play back mme wdm would not today no matter what combination I use nail biting head banging stuff if gt drivers work tomorrow i am going with that setup and wait for support if I ever hear from them eric AMD (TM) 5950 4.9 GHz 16Core Processor 64 bit 32 bits of ram windows 10 pro 64 bit os. sound card Antelope ZenQ guitars Ibanez 2202a 1968 les Paul Custom and Cavin ae 185 Guitar boss Gt-100,GT1000 pedal Yamaha HS8 studio monitors

Re: update on realband!!!! F.M.M. #547393 07/30/19 02:17 AM RealBand
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silvertones Veteran Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,021 Rio Grande Valley, Texas	I would just like to post how I was able to successfully get my Delta1010lt to run under windows 10. I almost gave up after relentlessly searching the internet and pulling my hair out. I attempted to normally install card after a PC and OS upgrade. I bought my MoBo with a PCI slot specifically for this card. No luck, all I was getting is the blank mixer panel and no device in manager. I was about to put it up for auction and get a USB interface. I gave it one more shot but paid attention to the flow of actions. -Fresh Win10 install. -Installed all MoBo and OS drivers and essentials. -Restarted one final time after all installs. -Once logged in, shut down. -Installed Delta101lt card in PC and connected break outs. -Started PC and Downloaded the cards install from M-Audio and unzipped to my desktop. -Right clicked on the install once downloaded and set compatibility settings to: Run for Win7 with Run this as Admin -Apply -Ok -Double clicked installer, finished install. -Restarted -Opened the Delta101lt mixer and WoooHooo!! I have been up and running for 3 days now. Hope this helps someone in need! John ESI Gigaport HD+ Lenovo Turion II /4 Gig Ram/ Win7x64 be 15.6" Monitor "The only Band is a Real Band" www.wintertexaninfo.com/BANDS/JohnnyD.php

Re: update on realband!!!! F.M.M. #547402 07/30/19 04:31 AM RealBand
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silvertones Veteran Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,021 Rio Grande Valley, Texas	Also the first thing I noticed: It says your system is windows 8. John ESI Gigaport HD+ Lenovo Turion II /4 Gig Ram/ Win7x64 be 15.6" Monitor "The only Band is a Real Band" www.wintertexaninfo.com/BANDS/JohnnyD.php

Re: update on realband!!!! silvertones #547456 07/30/19 08:49 AM RealBand
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Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,827 Winston Salem, NC USA	Originally Posted By: silvertones ... snip ...It says your system is windows 8. Huh? Who are you posting to? What says someone's system is Windows 8? Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: update on realband!!!! F.M.M. #547474 07/30/19 10:56 AM RealBand
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silvertones Veteran Joined: May 2003 Posts: 8,021 Rio Grande Valley, Texas	Replied to F.M.M. From his log System : Windows 8 Professional, Version: 6.2, Build: 23F0, "" Processor: AMD, AMD FX(tm)-8150 Eight-Core Processor , 3920 MHz MMXex MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSE41 SSE42 SSE4A 64 bits DEP Memory: 16330; free 11949 Display : 1680x1050 pixels, 32 bpp John ESI Gigaport HD+ Lenovo Turion II /4 Gig Ram/ Win7x64 be 15.6" Monitor "The only Band is a Real Band" www.wintertexaninfo.com/BANDS/JohnnyD.php

Re: update on realband!!!! F.M.M. #547487 07/30/19 01:15 PM RealBand
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rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,223 Mi., USA	Good eye John. That error was from the beginning of July, wonder if it changed since then.. or maybe he is still W8, have to wait to see. Possible the message was wrong also .. or affected by other windows settings (compatibility mode, etc) Dunno, but nice catch I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

Re: update on realband!!!! silvertones #547503 07/30/19 03:55 PM RealBand
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,827 Winston Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,827 Winston Salem, NC USA	Originally Posted By: silvertones Replied to F.M.M. From his log System : Windows 8 Professional, Version: 6.2, Build: 23F0, "" Processor: AMD, AMD FX(tm)-8150 Eight-Core Processor , 3920 MHz MMXex MMX SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSE41 SSE42 SSE4A 64 bits DEP Memory: 16330; free 11949 Display : 1680x1050 pixels, 32 bpp Whoa! That's way different from the information in his signature: Quote: AMD (TM) 8150 3.60 GHz Eight Core Processor 64 bit windows 10 pro 64 bit os. sound card delta 1010 pci card 500 ssd drive 3 other drives guitars 1968 les Paul Custom and Cavin ae 185 Guitar boss Gt-100 pedal Carvin SRS Studio reference series I agree with rharv, great catch but which is right the log or the signature? Perhaps he upgraded from Win 8 to Win 10 and there is a lot of Win 8 files still on the computer? Did anyone see Bob Norton's post about the Win 8 mouse driver messing with his upgraded Win 10 computer? Maybe something similar is going on here. Jim Fogle - 2025 BiaB (Build 1128) RB (Build 5) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Laptop: i3 Win 10, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: update on realband!!!! Jim Fogle #547547 07/31/19 03:23 AM RealBand
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OP F.M.M. Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,699	hi guys yes I did not see that either the only thing that comes to mind is earlier there was a program that I could not run around that time I tried compatible mode never could get it running anyway I may have tried to run check compatibly mode and real band and hit the wrong selection that said I have re installed real band recently still have the error know biab works fine in mme delta oh and I went from wins 7 to wins 10 upgrade and my mouse is not scolling well for some reason eric AMD (TM) 5950 4.9 GHz 16Core Processor 64 bit 32 bits of ram windows 10 pro 64 bit os. sound card Antelope ZenQ guitars Ibanez 2202a 1968 les Paul Custom and Cavin ae 185 Guitar boss Gt-100,GT1000 pedal Yamaha HS8 studio monitors

Re: update on realband!!!! F.M.M. #547871 08/02/19 09:30 AM RealBand
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OP F.M.M. Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,699	hey john I reinstall wins 10 hoping that might be it I did the save data and programs way to much work to go with fresh install at this point it would take me 3 days to re install everything my next computer build it will be fresh install for sure im glad its running for you doing the reinstall makes my computer pretty snappy the boss drivers are a work around at this point nothing from support so far eric AMD (TM) 5950 4.9 GHz 16Core Processor 64 bit 32 bits of ram windows 10 pro 64 bit os. sound card Antelope ZenQ guitars Ibanez 2202a 1968 les Paul Custom and Cavin ae 185 Guitar boss Gt-100,GT1000 pedal Yamaha HS8 studio monitors

Re: update on realband!!!! F.M.M. #549061 08/12/19 09:55 AM RealBand
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OP F.M.M. Veteran Joined: Dec 2011 Posts: 2,699	hi me very happy I was searching on samplitude site others were having problems with delta wdm drivers as well seems after windows 1807 update wdm drivers were not working one of the posters refered to microphone can not be off in privacy some apps will not work well mine was disabled for some reason enable some of the items that work with apps rebooted all is back to normal as of now also I can record or playback using either mme wdm drivers wow what a trip this was will see what happens thanks for all the help on this guys eric AMD (TM) 5950 4.9 GHz 16Core Processor 64 bit 32 bits of ram windows 10 pro 64 bit os. sound card Antelope ZenQ guitars Ibanez 2202a 1968 les Paul Custom and Cavin ae 185 Guitar boss Gt-100,GT1000 pedal Yamaha HS8 studio monitors

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