Hey Rock_star, I also took the free songwriting class from Pat Pattison twice. I do use the boxes, length of lines, pre-chorus and prosody from his teachings. I also do the object and destination writing to come up with songs and imagery. I've only been writing for about 8 years but have written over 350 songs. I do FAWM and 50/90 although this year I have been quite busy with my other hobbies I do, art and dance. I read all the time about songwriting, I dissect good songs, belong to a local songwriter group. Try to write a lot whether inspired or not. I just signed up for a creative writing class for the Fall at our local college. I'm writing lyrics and songs for a second album of a local musician country and southern rock style. Last year I wrote 10 songs for a UK artist. I may never have a number one hit, but I consider myself a success and I have worked hard at it. I'm not the greatest, but I'm not the worst as most of us are somewhere in between. Don't let anyone tell you, you have no talent and that you will never be successful. Determine what success is to you. Keep on, keepin' on. Rock on!!!!