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Yea Mac I found it. Set up a song with all upper bank patches. Hook MidiOx in line and filtered all data except CC. At the beginning it sends all of the appropriate MSB values in fact it sends them twice each just to make sure BUT BUT BUT just before the song starts it sends MSB of 0 to channels - 2,3,7,6,4,8,5,2, Twice which of course are the channels as set up in the PREFS

That's the answer they messed up the upper bank change to fix the out of sync issue.

Early last year I reported to support that when I loaded a song that had been saved with higher bank (HB) patches, the bank changes were sent on load but were *not* sent when you hit play, only the patch change itself was sent on play. That can cause a lot of confusion under certain circumstances, and it looks like they've finally fixed at least that one thing (build 292), since play now sends cc0, cc32, and the program change as a bundle. But there are still issues. Maybe new ones, as you say. (Are you sure that style control of patch changes was repressed? These midi/song/override settings drive me nuts trying to figure out the hierarchy of control over patch/bank events.) One thing I'm finding right away: when I load a song that I saved (build 292) with HB definitions, I don't see them in the HB dialog - the "+" button, although the new spinners get them right (and the midi monitor confirms they're there). Display confusion - not good. (BTW, why add the bank spinners? - If you're using HBs, you wanna use your patch map, no? Were the spinners discussed in beta?)

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I knew it wasn't the Ketron, which has proven over and over again to be a 100% reliable State Machine. Besides, there's nothing volatile about it.

CC123 is all notes off. Same thing as the panic button. (BB has been sending out that all channel fusilade for many versions now.) If a synth resets to a GM bank in response to that.... well it just shouldn't. Must be more to what's going on than that.

-Ron