No offense meant to anybody so don’t be hating on me now ....and apologies for veering a bit of topic. Us old pharts do that.
I would love to see a correctly done (good research design) double blind study that tested for discrimination accuracy of those tested regarding:
High quality mp3 vs wav vs etc. Vinyl vs CD vs the best streaming platform $3K speakers vs $500 speakers High end tube amp vs a decent sold state amp
And more...
Good article. I'm surprised CD sales are still that high.
Bud
Caveat 1: I have a huge vinyl collection dating to early Elvis...including the Beatles "Butcher" album - got real lucky with that! All purchased when released. After the advent of CD's they were all relegated to the basement where they remain. I've gone from that vinyl collection to replacing most with CD's to uploading 500 CD's to iTunes to Apple Music.
Caveat 2: I owned some of the best turntables and tube amps. Mostly they too reside in the basement...well I wish all the tube amps did given the market for them now!
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LOVE playing vinyl. At our local hospital radio station there's over 3000 vinyl LPs. Quality even from the 60s' is incredible. I bought a double vinyl album last year from a friend of mine who recorded his last album on vinyl AND cd. He gave me the cd, but the difference is astonishing. Vinyl for me every time
I still have my vinyl collection (about 1500 albums), but am digitizing them to MP3 (using pretty good software designed for that). It takes a while, but it's a fun hobby. I could probably get a number of them on CD, but I don't like buying the same thing twice, and many are no longer available anyway.
And I never had very good luck trying to listen to my records while driving in the car.
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Matt, Can't speak for John, but I just record the turntable output to PT/RB, then use the PGVinyl tool sparingly (actually a pretty impressive tool once you learn it). And save as Wav.
The PGMusic VinylTool is worth exploring if you want to get your OLD vinyl albums digitized. I have a few hundred and some are definitely collector stuff, but alas I've also abused/wore out many that are no longer available. The PGMusic VinylTool is another hidden tool you already have but may not have tinkered with .. The settings in the image below are my default starting point, like I said; you gotta tinker with it a bit.
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Hi all I am a great fan of vinyl, but sadly I sold my last turntable about 15 tears ago for more than I paid for it new back in the HI Fi era. Replaced most of my collection with CDs the balance transferred to high spec cassette tape.
Still miss that sound and the Valve (tube) amps. So much so that as some of you know I have recently bought a class A push pull valve amp for my guitar. Reminds me of those hifi valve amps like the Leak, Quad, Radford, etc. the sound I loved. However I can see how this all happened with the move to music PC based music and software in recent years. With the DAT audio systems and the ill fated minidisk (remember them) sandwiched somewhere along the way.
I love my vinyls and I probably have about 1000, but to be honest, most of my listening to music these days is via streaming... it is just so much more convenient.
Guys, if your Lps are quite crackly, then use Adobe audition ( or even cool edit as it was before.) It's been a fantastic tool for me copying Lps from friends. It REALLY works at taking all the crackles & pops out of a recording. I've even used it for hiss removal from old tapes. This was the software I've used for years for recording vinyl to cds to begin with. Don't have any more to copy now. I've about 10,000 cds on two 64gb sd cards and also backed up on a 1tb ext hd, which I use to take to the studio to do my radio shows.
Yes, I've used Adobe Audition (Cool Edit) for all my stereo editing from more than a decade. But unless you are recording from an amp the turntable is connected to, converting a signal from a turntable requires a preamp and that RIAA emphasis curve. There must be some interface that does it, or else perhaps software.
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Originally my goodmans turntable had two phono out sockets, and would connect to my Behringer sound module. At the moment I don't have or need a turntable as I can just record any at the hospital radio studio and take them home to edit.
My Audio Technica turntable has audio outs, which is connected to my mixer and near field monitors, as well as a USB port, which is connected to my computer.
I only convert to a CD songs that I want or need to learn, and that is very rarely.
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Some of you mention the RIAA equalization curve. This will need to be dealt with if your pickup is Magnetic, moving coil or moving iron (magnet) like Sure, Ortifon, etc. these will also need a pre amp as the output is low a few mv. The RIAA treatment is included in pre amps made for this purpose, in hi fi amps or can be bought as free standing units to give you an equalized output at a higher level for driving what ever. If you use a magnetic cartridge.
However those using ceramic pick up cartridges, you don’t need to worry about RIAA Eq or preamps. As they are a much higher impendence and output often 100mv to 1volt . The eq is not required because the ceramic element compensates for the recording curve.
This means that if you don’t use RIAA eq when using a magnetic pickup it will sound thin and toppy no bass. Where as a ceramic will give you an already flatter output across the range. Into its correct impedance.
The above all assumes that you are feeding the above cartridges to their correct input impedance, that is :normally 47k moving iron(magnet), Moving coil are often much lower impedance and need to go through a transformer to bring them up to a 47k input. Ceramic cartridges req a much higher impedance 1M to 2M to perform as above.
Strangely, and confusing for some folks if you feed a high impedance ceramic cartridge into a 47k input the mismatch causes its output to not be flat In fact it would be all top and no bass so you can bring it back on line by using RIAA EQ. But you would overload a magnetic cartridge input because of the ceramic cartridge high output
One thing I'm surprised is making a comeback is cassette - more and more independent artists I follow are releasing new projects on cassette tape. Which is strange to me since I have vivid memories of how low quality it sounded.
I do think vinyl is around for the long run. If anything else, the artwork on a record is stunning when you compare it to the tiny little artwork on a cassette or CD case. Between the packaging and vinyl itself, I almost consider it a work of art itself aside from the music.
I had read something about a huge shortage of vinyl pressing equipment and the people who know how to run them. I vaguely remember reading about how records are made as a kid and it's complicated. Here's a good article about it:
One thing I'm surprised is making a comeback is cassette - more and more independent artists I follow are releasing new projects on cassette tape. Which is strange to me since I have vivid memories of how low quality it sounded.
Strangely by the time cassettes came to an end, the high end cassette decks could turn in a good recording. What was not so good were commercial releases of compact cassette recordings, owing to the fact that they often copied for distribution on high speed copiers. As you know to double the speed doubles the frequency so you soon finished up outside the capabilities of the medium and the copies would playback at the correct speed when you played them but lacked in high frequency content. This has always been a problem with any double speed copier for tape systems in general. 15k is 30k at double speed. Real time copy is a much safer bet. Mike
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