Hi, Ron. Welcome to the forums!

A few things to consider before you start buying (and trying to learn) new Drums software...

When you say
"I often hear from pros that the drums could be better...."

What define these folks as "pros"?
What do they (or you) mean by "could be better..."?

Does that mean the playing???? .... because the guys playing the BIAB drums are the best there are... they know what they are doing...

Does that mean - your drums aren't loud enough?? Drummers (your pros?) like the hear drums above most everything else.
I listened to several of your videos (I enjoyed them, btw). I thought, for the most part, your drum choices were good, but they are a bit "buried in the mix". (Also, you don't get carried away with part markers - and therefore drum fills - they way some folks tend to...a good thing).

Does they mean the overall SOUND of the drums? The drums in you video could use some processing to "make them pop". Some high end EQ, some compression (and a bit more volume).

With just a little effort (processing), the BIAB drums can be some of the best there are.

Are you using a current version of BIAB (and at least the UltraPak)? There have been some great new choices in the last couple of years. There are SO many choices of style - and choosing the RIGHT one can make all the difference


Learning to use any of the Drum programs (Addictive Drummer, EZDrummer, etc.) can be a bit of a daunting task. If you don't have a decent grasp of how to "be a drummer", it is easy to "make a mess of things".
And you can end up spending all your time "trying to get the thing to do what you want"...instead of MAKING MUSIC.


Check to see if SONAR has a preset for a Stereo Drum Track (which is what you get out of BIAB). Finding one might be all you need. I use Presonus Studio One Professional - which has a preset called "S1 Drumgroup"... droping that on a BIAB drum track livens it up considerable. And then keeping the drums at the proper level (loud enough to drive the track) is often all that is required...


Good Luck!!

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