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Try changing your sound card to 44100 instead of 48000 and see if that helps. If not, try changing from 24 bit to 16 bit (at 44100).
Also, I've had good luck running one of my computers with a Realtek using the free ASIO4ALL driver (you can Google it). That will give you low latency for MIDI input recording.
Just a few things to try.
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Try changing your sound card to 44100 instead of 48000 and see if that helps. If not, try changing from 24 bit to 16 bit (at 44100).
Also, I've had good luck running one of my computers with a Realtek using the free ASIO4ALL driver (you can Google it). That will give you low latency for MIDI input recording.
Just a few things to try.
Hi Jford, thanks for your suggestions. I did try changing those soundcard settings as you suggested, but unfortunately it didn't seem to help playback, and then after rebooting my computer Windows changed them back again. I probably won't be using Midi input into this old laptop, but I will on my new one, so I will give ASIO4ALL a look. Thanks again  Zac
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zac, In BIAB, under "Audio" on the uppermost menu, select "Audio Drivers/Settings". On the top right of the Audio Drivers' window, there's an option called "Audio Driver Type". This is probably set to WAS or ASIO (WAS is BIAB's default setting). Click on this option and change it to MME. That might make a difference to playback. Regards, Noel P.S. A 5 minute wait is a long time. I have a pretty powerful PC and I usually have playback starting in less than 10 seconds (for full-song generation of a song around 70 bars in length). Thanks Noel, I will try that. Ultimately this isn't the computer that I'm going to run this on long term, but I do want to tweak it as much as possible and use it as a backup. One peculiar thing I've noticed, the cursor on the chord screen is way behind where the music is, like by about 8 bars. Has that ever happened to you?
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One peculiar thing I've noticed, the cursor on the chord screen is way behind where the music is, like by about 8 bars. Has that ever happened to you? Zac, I've certainly never witnessed that before. What does your CPU and Memory usage peak at when you're playing a song?
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One peculiar thing I've noticed, the cursor on the chord screen is way behind where the music is, like by about 8 bars. Has that ever happened to you? No, I've never had this happen.
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One peculiar thing I've noticed, the cursor on the chord screen is way behind where the music is, like by about 8 bars. Has that ever happened to you? Zac, I've certainly never witnessed that before. What does your CPU and Memory usage peak at when you're playing a song? Well the good news is it doesn't seem to be happening at all today (but the day is still young). At the moment the CPU is varying between about 62-70% during playback, memory is 61%. All of the suggestions & tweaks seem to be paying off though, I'm hearing no distortion (unless I start moving the mouse around, which makes it distort immediately). Last night when I had the disparity of the music being ahead of the chord screen cursor the CPU was going up into the 80-99% range and was giving me a lot of distortion, speed slow downs, etc. I did notice at one point an annoying windows updater process randomly kicked in, which pretty much killed BIAB performance. I've been trying to eliminate as much of those sorts of things as possible. Today though it seems to be working a lot better than it was. I think the most dramatic improvement was going into Song Settings & choosing the "This song has playback problems, disable Fast Generation" checkbox (the downside of course is having to wait longer for the tracks to generate, but I can put up with that for now until the new comp arrives).
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...................................I did notice at one point an annoying windows updater process randomly kicked in, which pretty much killed BIAB performance. I've been trying to eliminate as much of those sorts of things as possible. .................... I have a relatively fast computer system but things running in the background can mess things up when recording and playbacks. I always turn off all anti-virus and anti-malware programs. I also disable the Ethernet card. When I do those things I never have a problem. YMMV
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...(unless I start moving the mouse around, which makes it distort immediately).
Make sure your graphics card drivers are up to date. Also your mouse drivers. If this is a wireless mouse, consider replacing it with a wired one.
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Zac,
One other thought that just occurred to me and I don't think that it's already been mentioned.... make sure that the \bb and \Realband folders are excluded from checking by your antivirus software.
Antivirus checking every time BIAB makes a new temp file can slow things, too.
Regards,
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Zac, I haven’t seen it mentioned here, but have you “frozen” the tracks?
That usually greatly speeds up the loading time.
Also, if you are looking to replace your computer check out the recent
posts by Notes Norton on his recent purchase.
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Zac, I haven’t seen it mentioned here, but have you “frozen” the tracks?
That usually greatly speeds up the loading time.
Also, if you are looking to replace your computer check out the recent
posts by Notes Norton on his recent purchase. Thanks jazzsax, no I haven't, in fact I'm so new to this I don't even know what freezing tracks is, but I will look it up & do it.
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Zac,
One other thought that just occurred to me and I don't think that it's already been mentioned.... make sure that the \bb and \Realband folders are excluded from checking by your antivirus software.
Antivirus checking every time BIAB makes a new temp file can slow things, too.
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Great idea. It's done. Thanks Noel!
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Welcome to the forum and to Band-in-a-Box. It seems like you're enjoying it so far.
Two file management suggestions: Create a new folder labeled with the name of your song or music project as the folder title. Frequently use the "save as" file command to save a new version of your work in progress. For example create a folder called MySong and save versions as MySong01, MySong02, etc.
Frequently saving can be really helpful if a project file is corrupted (it happens).
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...(unless I start moving the mouse around, which makes it distort immediately).
Make sure your graphics card drivers are up to date. Also your mouse drivers. If this is a wireless mouse, consider replacing it with a wired one. Thanks Matt, I did check & the drivers are up to date.
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Zacworld,
Welcome to the forum and to Band-in-a-Box. It seems like you're enjoying it so far.
Two file management suggestions: Create a new folder labeled with the name of your song or music project as the folder title. Frequently use the "save as" file command to save a new version of your work in progress. For example create a folder called MySong and save versions as MySong01, MySong02, etc.
Frequently saving can be really helpful if a project file is corrupted (it happens). Great ideas, will do. Thanks
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At the moment the CPU is varying between about 62-70% during playback, memory is 61%. All of the suggestions & tweaks seem to be paying off though, I'm hearing no distortion (unless I start moving the mouse around, which makes it distort immediately). If the CPU is running 70%, consider it as being "maxed-out" for the purpose of anything requiring real-time processing. Clearly, there's not enough spare capacity to move the mouse  I really think that replacing that laptop with a more powerful unit is going to be the direction you will ultimately need to take. I feel you also agree.
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You mentioned no midi. Midi styles will play in just a few seconds even with a slow system. Try it. As for sound quality that is based on your synth. Midi can sound awesome with a good synth.
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Zacworld, some really good comments here. I remember when I was first getting into all of this.
The 2 biggest things I did, after upgrading my computer and memory, were to setup my AV so it didn't scan my BIAB and RB folders and got a wired rather than wireless mouse. Those helped but didn't completely get me to where I wanted to be.
I started playing around with 2 latency monitors (DPC Latency Checker and LatencyMon...both available free...just Google). Note LatencyMon will not give exact accurate readings on Win10 but will show relative areas of concern.
What these two showed me was that leaving BlueTooth on was causing a problem for my system i.e. it was constantly scanning for available devices. Shutting this off using the Win10 Control Panel helped a bunch.
YMMV
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check your hard drive for the data light flashing - background hard disc activity kills performance
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You mentioned no midi. Midi styles will play in just a few seconds even with a slow system. Try it. As for sound quality that is based on your synth. Midi can sound awesome with a good synth.
Bob Thanks Bob, I know MIDI sounds will work, I just really prefer the RealTracks. When I get my new laptop with the SSD drive this won't be an issue any more. Take care!
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