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Having sorted out my 6/8 problem (thanks Noel) I am now getting unwanted double bars in the leadsheet previews and printouts. Here are some screen shots. Anyone come across this? Is it finger trouble on my part? If not, are there any fixes or workarounds?

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Hi Rico,

This looks you've loaded in an external BIAB file that has been created using multiple repeats.

If you look closely at the bar numbering, you'll see that the repeats are required to reach the next bar number that follows a repeat.

For example: bars 17-24 are enclosed with repeats. This means, that when you play it, the song will get to bar 24 and then go back to bar 17 (which in repeat terms now becomes bar 25). By the time the repeat playback reaches bar 24 for the second time, it's become bar 32. This is why the bar number immediately after bar 24 is bar 33.

To see what I mean....

BEFORE DOING THE BELOW -- save the song file with a new name so that you can always get back to the original if you want to.

1. Click on "FakeSheet" (i.e #1 on the image below). If your view of BIAB is different from mine, press CTRL+T to switch to 'Standard View' rather than 'Full Screen View'.

2. De-select the first option in the FakeSheet settings (#2). You will now see the repeated bars expanded in full and those bars that are repeated will be in gray.

3. Click on "FakeSheet" (#1) again, and this time, de-select the bottom option (#3). You will be asked if you want to erase the repeats. It's safe to do so.

You'll now have a fully expanded song without repeats.

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Thanks for the quick reply but I think we are at cross-purposes or you have misunderstood what I'm objecting to.

I generated this song/chord chart from scratch and I'm very happy with the repeats and the double and dotted barline repeat marks.

What I can't see any reason for are the (non-dotted, non-repeat related) widely-spaced double barlines at the beginning of bars 2, 18, 32, 50, etc..

Any ideas?

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Ahhh... I didn't pick that up from your first post.

Without physically loading the songfile onto my system, I cannot say with 100% certainty what is wrong.

What does look unusual with your chordsheet is that you have red lines under just about every bar number. This means that "bar settings" is active in those bars. I'm suspecting that it is something in these settings that is causing the issue (maybe a key change).

The below might help you isolate the problem...

1. Right-click within the middle of one of the bars that has a red line under its number and select "Bar Settings" from the menu that pops up.

2. As shown on the image below, down the bottom of the Bar Settings window, there's a button called "Pint Summary". Press this and it will create a summary of all the bar settings through out the song. This might let you see what the issue is.

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I misunderstood this question as well. Now that we see what to look for, I do not have any solid idea except to look at what Noel has suggested.

One possible thought, though: Ricobasso, what font are you using for the chordsheet? It might account for why you see something we haven't. If you are using a different font, perhaps there is an error in that symbol.


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What does look unusual with your chordsheet is that you have red lines under just about every bar number. This means that "bar settings" is active in those bars. I'm suspecting that it is something in these settings that is causing the issue (maybe a key change)

I got those when I changed the time sig from 4/4 to 2/4 and selected the range of bars over which this applied.

Is there an easier way to just set the whole song to 2/4?

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I got those when I changed the time sig from 4/4 to 2/4 and selected the range of bars over which this applied.

Is there an easier way to just set the whole song to 2/4?

You should be able to just change the first bar to 2/4. Unless you make another change at a different bar, that 2/4 time signature will continue throughout the entire song.


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Also, you can first Reset all Bars from the bar settings page:

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Also, you can first Reset all Bars from the bar settings page:


That just resets all bars back to 4/4 and resets the "# beats this bar" field to "0".
That's no use to me; I want to set all bars to 2/4 so that there are only two triplets per bar.

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rico,

You only need to set "#beats this bar" = 2 in the first bar where 2/4 begins. After that, all other bars will be 2/4 until you change back to 4 beats per bar.

For example... if you want to have 2/4 from bar 6 to bar 29, in bar settings at bar 6, put "# Beats this bar" = 2. Then, at bar 30 put "# beats this bar" = 4.

Now, from bar 6 to bar 29, the song will play in 2/4. It will also play in 4/4 from bars 1 to 6 and bars 30 to the end of the song.

Videotrack's post a couple above this one is how to reset the chordsheet back to its original state so that you can modify the first bar of 2/4.

Hope this helps,
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Hi

I understand your confusion it got me going for a while. blush

Once you have made any change under bar settings it only shows in the bar that you make the change.
When you look at the next bar you see no change (that’s because there is not, another change until you make one, later in the sheet.) In other words changes are from that point on.

Also there is a handy print summary button at the bottom left of the bar change window that will give you a text file of all bar changes in the song, this is very useful if you have a complicated song.

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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Videotrack's post a couple above this one is how to reset the chordsheet back to its original state so that you can modify the first bar of 2/4.

Thanks Noel. Yes, that was the intention of my follow-up post but possibly I didn't articulate it very well. Definitely thanks for clarifying, appreciated.
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Thanks very much to everyone for all the help.

Cheers!

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Does that mean the problem is solved?


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Does that mean the problem is solved?

I wondered the same thing. Rico, has it been resolved?


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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Does that mean the problem is solved?

I wondered the same thing. Rico, has it been resolved?


Yes and no.

Yes because I can change the time sig by either
1. in the first bar in "bar settings" and it will remain for the rest of the song, or
2. I can click on the time sig in the song box at the top and change the time sig for a range of bars.

No, because neither of the above options changes the "Timesig" display in the song box. i.e there is no confirmation that anything has happened unless you play, listen and count, or, go to bar settings and do a "print summary" in "bar settings"- all very long-winded - A very unsatisfactory piece of software writing.


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Hi
It shows in notation i have just tried works fine
And in lead sheet.

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