Sorry, I couldn't think of how to word the subject more clearly, but basically, if I have a section that's repeated, let's say bars 1-8, and I want to edit bar 4 on the repeat only, how do I select that bar?
Or do I need to not use repeats if I want to do this?
I often do this (I think) with my music Firstly, I build my song in linear form, that is 'without any repeats'. Then I edit the specific bar that needs to be changed.
I then use repeats / 1st 2nd endings to give me the fake sheet printout that I need. Now the song will play accurately, but the printout will likely be incorrect. This doesn't worry me, but it may be a show stopper for you
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I often do this (I think) with my music Firstly, I build my song in linear form, that is 'without any repeats'. Then I edit the specific bar that needs to be changed.
I then use repeats / 1st 2nd endings to give me the fake sheet printout that I need. Now the song will play accurately, but the printout will likely be incorrect. This doesn't worry me, but it may be a show stopper for you
Ah, that's an interesting work-around. I might give that a try! Thanks
Let's say I want to mute a track on bar 3 of the above example, but only the second time around - is it possible to do that?
This may do what you want:
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Let's say I want to mute a track on bar 3 of the above example, but only the second time around - is it possible to do that?
This may do what you want:
Thanks for the reply. I think that would only apply to the second chorus, though. It wouldn't have any effect on the first chorus within a repeated section.
I think I'll just write it out without using repeats if I need to change something in a bar during a repeated section.
I think I'll just write it out without using repeats if I need to change something in a bar during a repeated section.
Hi Mike,
Yes, unfolded layout is the best way to go in this situation.
Personally, I always lay my songs out unfolded as it gives me much better control. This is in keeping with the notion of an orchestra score rather then the 'sheet music' notation approach of repeats, DC al coda, etc.
Yes, I agree. Noel's suggestion is the best way to go for your specific requirements.
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I was thinking about this as I was driving around today. I think that there is a way to add effects in repeated sections while keeping the repeats.
1. Expand the repeats by deactivating "Fake Sheet Mode" (see #3 on the image below). This will allow you to see the repeated sections (they will be in grey).
If you desktop view is different from mine, use CTRL+T to switch views.
2. Now edit the bar that you want to change.
3. Reactivate "Fake Sheet Mode" to contract the display.
4. Unfreeze tracks, generate and play.
Does this work? I haven't tried it so I'm not sure... it is worth testing, though.
Noel, This is essentially what I suggested earlier. Repeats and endings, as well as fake sheet are purely print functions. They do nothing to the underlying song. So looking at the song in notation mode will show you each bar as it is played, not the repeated bar as in fake sheet mode.
Fix or alter the specific bar or bars as needed. You cannot delete or add a bar, only change. You can add more bars, perhaps an extra repeat, or a coda, but you will probably have to adjust the repeat / endings dialogue
Then, as you say, "reactivate fake sheet"
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Thank you for the clarification. I've never used repeats, etc., other than to try and help people understand how they work. Because of this, I don't know the underlying subtleties like you do.
(I've been watching your comments for years and it's through you that I picked up how to use repeats, first/second endings, etc. Thank you for that, too )
You're welcome Lyrics are important to me - I just wish that BIAB did a better job of presenting them. I'd love to beta test the notation. There are many problems that have never been fixed
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