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I've given up.
After testing everything I know and working with Focusrite Support (very quick and friendly), I have concluded there is no combination of connections or settings that will make the Roland Integra-7 work via S/PDIF into the Focusrite 18i20 without digital clicks and pops.
I just connected the Integra's analog outputs via TRS cables to the Focusrite, and I'm all set. The sound quality isn't quite as good, but I'll take it to be rid of clicks and pops. Peace at last.
Many thanks to all of you who helped me!
- Matt
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FYI After years of using it I thought that my Behringer V-Amp Pro was dead. I had it connected to my computer via S/PDIF. All of the menus were scrambled and all of the sounds had distortion. Not like yours but more like a guitarist's fuzz pedal. Just for fun I connected it via audio outs and everything worked perfectly.
Maybe S/PDIF isn't as stable as we thought?
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Right, Mario. Who know, but I think S/PDIF is stable. I just have my doubts about the particular device I'm using, the Roland Integra-7. My other older Roland hardware synth, a Roland Fantom XR, works just fine in its place. Weird.
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SPDIF is not 'stable' necessarily. As I stated a few pages back, it has no clock signal. It just runs along however it feels, within some reason, at the sample rate that is set by the sending device.
I'm glad you got it sorted out. Your other device that you've used via SPDIF is probably using a different, perhaps more stable, internal clock.
-Scott
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Yes, a few pages. Hard to keep up with all the good advice.
What surprises me is that the Integra was supposed to be an improvement on the Fantom.
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Matt
Since I can't physically test your equipment - it is always possible your unit's digital circuits and outs are bad see page 43 of service manual. You HAVE the service manual (I sent you a link a while ago) if you need it again I will send you the PDF or link (if I cant find again - LOL ) - JUST PM me
but there is also some testing you could do (might not show anything) - see page 17 -19 but need stable signal generator and O'scope (or O'scope SW)
I guess you can't use the USB audio because of all the other gear involved? But then the analog is not BAD and only 1% of you all "golden ears" would ever notice any signal degradation going from DAC to ADC in your chain.
As far as S/PDIF begin "free wheeling" actually that's OK within limits but in general CLOCKS are very HARD, period and that's without embedding audio with clock (S/PDIF)and still expecting listening unit to get it right 100% of every clock tick.
I've work on and with critical systems that make professional audio/video syncs and clocks trivial in comparison, at clock rates that are orders (plural) of magnitude higher than highest rates used on in any studio gear and those clocks are critical to certain human life.
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Many thanks and yes, I have the service manual from you. I'm just burned out on this right now and I need to make some music. I'll come back to this in the spring! I might also bring my other Integra-7 from my cabin and try that. It would tell me if it's the design, or one is bad.
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Copy and yes MAKE SOME MUSIC (actually make another CD and let us know when it's ready).
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