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Misha/ Rustyspoon insisted I get another singer to have a crack at this song. Eventually Steve Smith volunteered to have a go and provided three main vocals, as well as harmony vocals. Steve worked from Misha's melody and threw in a few ideas of his won re phrasing and such. Misha's voice is rich with melange of exotic culture and personal expression and Steve's interpretation is more to do with his placement of words and pauses/emphasis. It was an interesting contrast to mix. THE TRACKS:The BIAB component of this track are the drums (some EQing as usual) and flute (some odd note choices but that's life), it's heart of this is the as the rest was built from that, (there were other ReaTracks but I slowly replaced them). Guitars are a Squire Mustang Bullet HH and Bruno Royal Artist through a compressor, GDI21 and spring reverb pedal. Fender 12 string acoustic through a AT2020 mic. Vantage & Hofner knock off Basses through a comp pedal and BDI21. Squire Mustang into Mel9 choirs, strings & orchestra through comp pedal, GDI21 tweed settings and spring reverb pedal. Mellotron string section tape wave files cut & pasted for high drones. Non Reaper native plug ins are the readily available freebies of Density MkII and PSP Vintage Warmer 2. There's still no keeper solo but I'm getting there. I did figure I should update you folk before the song is forgotten/consigned to the file shredder. https://soundcloud.com/rayc/games-none-can-play-pygmy-beat-extended-feat-steve-smithJUST LIKE THAT the guitar solo arrived, is mixed in and a rendering done... https://soundcloud.com/rayc/14novaug19stevejamesWritten by Misha & I. Please let me know your thoughts and any suggestions re the mix. For those of you who used CD slicks and LP covers, (for more than spliff rolling), here're the lyrics as sung.. Games None Can Play Death of a word None has said Condemned man’s plea Last meal fed Bottled tears of Brothel queens Finding love In magazines Pornographic Valentines Games none Can play Bleeding jester’s Morbid mirth Death triumphant At birth Borrowed words Little worth Games none Can play Tissue lies Truths untold Signs of longing Love gone cold Litany denial Lies long written No comfort Once smitten. Bleeding jester’s Morbid mirth Death triumphant At birth Borrowed words Little worth Games none Can play Newborn, stillborn Bleeding heart Morning: evening’s Dying art In these we Play no part Games none Can play Newborn, stillborn Bleeding heart Morning: evening’s Dying art In these we Play no part Games none Can play Bottled tears Brothel queens Finding love In magazines Pornographic Valentines Games none Can play Close a sentence Diagnosed in dark Comes an end Punctuation mark Cut open morning Tear into the light Before it reveals Swollen appetite Death of a word None has said Condemned man’s plea Last meal fed Act of contrition Sinners long gone Words without meaning Can’t be undone ...and as written, (I took the razor to the original version as it'd have taken a week to sing)... a game for one player At the death of a word That no one has said A condemned man’s plea His last meal been fed Bottled tears of brothel queens Finding love in magazines Pornographic valentines In games of love no one can play Bleeding jester’s morbid mirth Death triumphant at each birth Borrowed words of little worth In games of love no one can play In a tissue of lies The truths still untold Ten signs of longing For a love now gone cold Litany denial In lies so long written No easy comfort For those that were smitten. Bleeding jester’s morbid mirth Death triumphant at each birth Borrowed words of little worth In games of love no one can play Newborn, stillborn bleeding heart Morning: evening’s dying art In all these we play no part In games of love no one can play Newborn, stillborn bleeding heart Morning: evening’s dying art In all these we play no part In games of love no one can play Bottled tears of brothel queens Finding love in magazines Pornographic valentines In games of love no one can play The close of a sentence Diagnosed in the dark Comes to an end with A punctuation mark Cut open the morning Tear into the light Before it reveals A swollen appetite At the death of a word That no one has said A condemned man’s plea His last meal been fed An act of contrition By sinners long gone Words without meaning That cannot be undone
Last edited by rayc; 11/15/19 02:26 PM.
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That intro got my attention right off.
Reminds of something from the eighties may be a touch of "Split Endz".
Has a real spooky feel but in a good way.
Well crafted lyrics and a great mix.
Morse code at the end was a nice touch.
Well done to all. Rob4580
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I like the dark tone that has been portrayed.
My single comment is that the vocals need to come further to the front.
Regardless, interesting and unique.
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Great song! Loved it the first time I heard it, love it now. Steve did a good job on the vocal for you.
Hard to comment on the mix. I had to really crank it at this end to hear it properly, but I'm sure that is soundclouds fault.
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This has SUCH a great overall sound. It could easily play on a Classic Rock station and I wouldn't question it - other than thinking "Who WAS that??". Everything sounds great. The guitars, bass, drums... the vocal is excellent. One SMALL thing (very small compared to the overall excellence) - I have a really hard time making out the lyric in several spots. Cannot get them without the lyric (I need that album cover!). Certainly consistent with a lot of this style Rock from the 70's (I always needed those jackets opened, too)  Excellent listen. fj
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hi guys this is very creative has a pull on the listener right at the beginning nice work guys thanks eric
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Well, I like it a lot now with the new vocal. I agree with all the comments above - it grabs you right away, and the new vocal sounds right for the kind of music it is. I understand what people are saying about the vox level, but I'm used to not being able to understand the lyrics in rock music. That's what album jackets were for, back in the day. Fortunately here, we can post our lyrics and read them as we listen.
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Excellent. Very 80s and that's a good thing.
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This has SUCH a great overall sound. It could easily play on a Classic Rock station and I wouldn't question it - other than thinking "Who WAS that??". Everything sounds great. The guitars, bass, drums... the vocal is excellent. One SMALL thing (very small compared to the overall excellence) - I have a really hard time making out the lyric in several spots. Cannot get them without the lyric (I need that album cover!). Certainly consistent with a lot of this style Rock from the 70's (I always needed those jackets opened, too) Excellent listen. fj I agree!! Feel like I time traveled back about 40 years! I think the vocal could be a bit louder. Very hypnotic and addicting music!! Love it!! Take care. Greg
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The vocalist on this song is really cool. Sounds like something you'd hear while driving out on the open road. It has a classic rock vibe to the song and sounds like something that would have been on the radio back in the day.
Thanks for sharing!
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Ray,
Well I still like Misha`s "exotic" vocal... but the new singer is straight ahead good and the sound still has a great moody propulsion to it ( actually reminds me as much of Echo & The Bunnymen as a 70`s band).
Look forward to that someday guitar solo to complete this.
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Hello, 'rayc'...
The first time I listened to Games None Can Play, it didn't have vocals. The 'bottom line', so to speak, of my comment about it then, was that it possessed an 'implacable, unrelenting drive', that it tasted of mystery, was 'restless and serpentine', all of which contributed to an 'atmosphere of dread' that permeated the music...
...but now, with the addition of lyrics sung in mostly unison harmony, the song took on an entirely different feel and sound! Now, it rocks, still in a rather downbeat way, but the voices...they kind of humanize it, if you will, and lend some emotional gravity to it, so that it doesn't sound as foreboding (only to me, of course) as it did before.
So, what does all this mean? I guess it's just a testimonial to the power of the human voice to 'warm things up', as it conveys such depths of feeling, some of which cannot be translated into words, but can only be felt through the filter of emotions, and therefore transforms the experience of listening to the instrumental music...
...which is interesting in and of itself; that is to say that, to my ears, whenever I listen to music that has lyrics sung by a human voice, the music seems almost always to recede into the background, to whatever degree one perceives that to be happening. But, once again, that's the power of the human voice!
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Hi Ray,
this is just a very good song, no matter who sings it. But this singer does it very well, too.
I know that I - as a non-native English speaker - am not your main target audience, but I have to admit that I didn't understand enough of the lyrics to even figure out what i they're all about.
I wouldn't dare to compare my stuff with your great-sounding songs, but we encounter that issue almost every time: I hear the lyrics very clearly, because I wrote them, and therefor would like to keep the vocals a bit at the lower end, while Maha insists of bringing them forward for the exact reason: She wouildn't understand the lyrics...
But if I remember it well: Weren't the Seventies and Eighties decades of comparatively low vocal levels (which would make your choice of volume level pretty much authentic)?
Whatever - great song, great sound!
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Loved this song! First time I heard it. The opening guitars sounded awesome on headphones with the stereo panning. 20 seconds or so later when the other guitars came in that was more sonic sweetness.
Like the vocals how they are now. This song reminded me a lot of the band "Death Cab for Cutie". Very professional sounding.
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Wow - what a unique and engaging tune The vocals are really a standout for me - immediately attention grabbing, which is a good thing, and uniquely catchy as well. Great work and thanks for sharing!
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Grabbing intro, intriguing chording,
chorus melody has beauty in darkening
cryptic lyrics in the landscape of lust,
many nice details, nothing I'd adjust.
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That intro got my attention right off.
Reminds of something from the eighties may be a touch of "Split Endz".
Has a real spooky feel but in a good way.
Well crafted lyrics and a great mix.
Morse code at the end was a nice touch.
Well done to all. Rob4580
Thnaks Rob, I loved the Enz until they went pop funky so I'll wear that as a plus. The Morse code was Misha's excellent idea.
Cheers
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I like the dark tone that has been portrayed.
My single comment is that the vocals need to come further to the front.
Regardless, interesting and unique. Thanks VT, I discussed the vocal level with Steve and he wants it to remain where it is - he seems to think that's truer to my general "sound".
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Great song! Loved it the first time I heard it, love it now. Steve did a good job on the vocal for you.
Hard to comment on the mix. I had to really crank it at this end to hear it properly, but I'm sure that is soundclouds fault. Thank you sir, I had the levels fairly low in line with general streamer requirements but, it seems, Soundcloud didn't do what I expected it to do. I've "normalised" the newer mix.
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This has SUCH a great overall sound. It could easily play on a Classic Rock station and I wouldn't question it - other than thinking "Who WAS that??". Everything sounds great. The guitars, bass, drums... the vocal is excellent. One SMALL thing (very small compared to the overall excellence) - I have a really hard time making out the lyric in several spots. Cannot get them without the lyric (I need that album cover!). Certainly consistent with a lot of this style Rock from the 70's (I always needed those jackets opened, too) Excellent listen. fj Thanks fj, You are very generous in your assessment - but I like it! As mentioned above the singer is keen to keep the vocal at the current level - I think he agrees with you regarding time/place/genre. I've provided the lyrics in the OP.
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We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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