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Ah yes, forget to change the 1 to -1 in project settings.

You're a straight up genius, Pipeline!

BTW, I'm messing around with all the functions in the docker (which, I must admit, is a bit cluttered and hard to locate specific functions in...), and I'm trying to figure out how the holds/shots/rests would work given that the tracks are already generated and sitting as audio tracks w/in the DAW.

Also, the GUIs' functionalities are absolutely stunning. STUNNING!

I can see how they are incredibly useful in the context of MIDI, and with recording or live playing/snapping and quantizing scales to chords etc. but are they meant to integrate with RTs/RTs due to the reasons I mentioned in my previous post?

In the GUI the section functions are sorted a bit better.
the Holds/Shots are for
https://www.reatrak.com/downloads/test_files/
you just select the bars when you want to generate them,
"Choose Instrument" from ReaTrak Instruments folder or ReaTrak Drums folder,
"ReaTrak Selection"

Next note: when I try and click chords on the circle of fifths utility, instead of entering a chord it simply cycles the play-head between region start times.

Ah I see, that's gonna be a hard pass from me, lol.

I'd rather just generate a selection of bars within the BiaB VST, and splice/insert align them wherever needed. I'm guessing that was something with much more utility prior to the 2019 release w/ the plugin. Am I understanding that right?

LOL that get's me every time
right mouse button next chord region
middle mouse button enter chord
left mouse button previous chord region

to add new chord in a region set the cursor there and hit the middle mouse button.

Yup. That did it

That was made before the plugin, basically for usertracks so you can have more control over them than in Biab, as you get holds/shots, midi, audio and video, you then import into Biab.

BTW, I looked into the chord picker utility this morning to see if I could get it to run within the BiaB VST, and I couldn't even install it properly with the latest attached files in your linked post.

Anything new with that?

Editing to add (I love how the utility is integrated into the GUI, but that's post BiaB chord generation. I'm asking specifically about running it w/in the BiaB plugin.

What one are you trying to use ? was it the Compact 768 version or the Reaper Biab Plugin version ?

Here's the Reaper Biab Plugin Chord Picker:
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=505875#Post505875
you should be able to put it in the Biab Chord Picker install location then you will get the background pic.

Both. Something went wrong after the install. Don't remember what the error message was.

In any event, I have some stuff to do now (including recording and posting my next video, hopefully) so I'll have to revisit this later (as well as the playalong function that launched this whole thread!)

Thanks again for everything Pipeline!

Ah, that's very helpful as I installed what was included in the link provided in our latest post linked in your profile signature. You may want to update that ;-)

Later Pipeline.

I just unzipped the Reaper picker
BiabVST Chord Picker Reaper x64.exe
to C:\Program Files\Biab Chord Picker Tool

Updated:

For those new to Reaper this is an easier way to install/update ReaTrak.
To Show Reaper Resource Path
Options > Show REAPER Resource Path in finder/explorer

1. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Export Configuration check all boxes and Save as backup configuration !!!!

2. Reaper > Options > Preferences > General > Import Configuration ReaTrak_xxx.ReaperConfigZip (you can copy it to REAPER\Configurations folder first)

3. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Section> Main
Import > REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaTrak Scripts.ReaperKeyMap

4. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Section> Main
Import > REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaReaTrak Custom Actions Required (Main).ReaperKeyMap

5. Reaper > Actions > Show Action List > Section> Midi Editor
Import > REAPER\KeyMaps\ReaTrak MIDI Editor.ReaperKeyMap

6. Reaper > View > Toolbar Docker add or change toolbar from REAPER\MenuSets
right click a toolbar tab > Open toolbar > 14,15 or 16
right click the opened toolbar tab > Customize
in the drop down top left select the associated toolbar 14,15 or 16
at the bottom right Import >
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 14 medium.ReaperMenu
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 15 small.ReaperMenu
ReaTrak color icons toolbar 16.ReaperMenu

7. Make sure you have SWS Extensions installed.

Works awesome!!!

Hey, as an aside, I've spent over 5 hours trying to record a 1/2 video on separating drum layers from Realdrums and rendering them into individual stems using Regroover Essential by feeding sending a MIDI signal (track 1) into an empty track hosting the Regroover plugin VST (track 2) and then recording the audio output into track 3 as a receive.

I also think it would be awesome to inspire folks here by making a quick video demonstrating how I can get pumping trance chords, arppegiated lead sounds, and bowel shaking dubstep bass wobbles, and EDM drum loops (all generated on a single MIDI track rendered via the BiaB Plugin Chords > MIDI chord track scripts!) to play along with, say, a jazzy sax solo and mellow piano background layered with some fusion type drums supplied by BiaB.

AFAIK, this (the MIDI part) is impossible with BiaB when you entered a chord with more than 3, MAYBE 4 tones. The closest I could get is with the Held piano MIDI, but even with that, it was a nightmare extending out empty spaces, and adding notes etc... When you want your MIDI to 'jam' subdivided chord patterns, run bass sequences, and Rompler drum loops (a la Xpand2, and Kontakt's Urban Beats), the held piano styles were virtually useless, as a single gap in the MIDI line would through the whole production off course....

Now back to the point; basically all my sends and receives get messed up and refuse to record output when I use my microphone headset to record the video. Furthermore, I get ambient noise bleeding through into the armed/record output track. I know this probably has a relatively simple fix "under the hood," but I don't feel confident enough to start messing around with the whole input/output routing matrix stuff because every-time I try, I end up making the whole situation even worse.

Is it possible to simply prevent Reaper from recognizing my mic in the first place? I'm thinking something I could set up under the Device Manager itself, so that my recording software will pick up the mic and all sounds coming from my PC, but Repear will only "hear" what's happening in Reaper is if I didn't have a mic plugged in at all.

Thanks in advance!

I'm half asleep now but I will give some info now and look at it better in the morning.
Active Presenter is free and will record multi audio devices to multiple audio tracks that you can adjust before render.
VoiceMeeter Banana will let you have other audio devices like VB Cable, Hi-Fi Cable you can get these on the same site.
I have my Windows set to VB Cable and Reaper Set to VoiceMeeter AUX ASIO, Biab set to VoiceMeeter ASIO.
Check it out and see how you go.

Wow, you guys are just movin right along. I wish I could jump in but it's just impossible right now. As for my power outage thanks for the good thoughts, this one turned out to be a maintenance one, it wasn't due to any fires in the area.

These outages are upsetting a whole lot of people because they wern't doing that years ago and despite news reports the fires are no worse now than they were then. The problem is the power companies have been found liable for BILLIONS because their lameassed old equipment sparks and has caused many of these fires so now they just shut off everybody's power at the drop of a hat. Sorry a bit of an off topic rant there.

Anyway, this Reaper/Biab thing is looking pretty slick.

Bob

When you're ready it should be working pretty good.
I'm just adding the play fill part so if you hit the same chord it will play a fill or you set it to auto play a fill after so many bars.
You can add a keyswitch to bring the soloist in and then fade it out.
You could get it to bring in soloist 1 or soloist 2 by having "soloist #" in the track name.

This is Active Presenter audio in:

Wow, yet another cool utility you've turned me onto. :-)

BTW, unless I've overlooked something, there are no add9 chords in the chord picker tool. I really LOVE the sound of those chords. Any chance you'll be adding them in?

Thanks in advance!