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Hi Ok first the dxi coyote wave table is only for playing midi as are other vst and dxi. The realtracks and realstyle parts (the green ones) use and play thru your audio from your pc sound card or audio interface if you have one, plus its connected speakers. As you know the Midi (yellow in the mixer) can be sent to an external midi sound module or midi keyboard .
Any midi you send to the external device will play thru that device and its associated speakers providing the device has the midi voice required. As I said midi voices are addressed by first sending an MSB then a LSB followed by the patch/voice no. Some devices default to playing just the patch no if they do not understand the incoming msb/lsb
You will find some articles on my web site technical articles page that may give you an insight into all this link in my sig below. For now here is a copy of one on msb lsb bank select and gm.although written by me for Yamaha the basic idea is the same for Roland but see your voice list for numbers.
From my web site How To Calculate The MSB Bank Change Value for Yamaha / Cakewalk
I thought that this might be of interest to any one that uses external sequencing software to drive Yamaha keyboards.
Many seq progs only have a single box for entering bank changes in their track viewSo this should help your when you need both MSB & LSB values. In a midi file or style, a Voice / program change number without any prior Bank Select events, will default to GM voices. These are the most general voices, and will be recognized by all sound cards and midi players. Yamaha needed more voices than GM, so they created them by preceding a program change number event by two additional commands: MSB Bank Select and LSB Bank Select. These bank select events can be anywhere in the midi as long as they occur before the program change event. Yamaha use, MSB =0 and LSB=0 as their GM voices. You will find the LSB, MSB and program change numbers in the manual’s Voice List or in a sequencer program. To see them in the PSR/Tyros voice display box, set Display Voice Numbers to On in Function/Utility/Config2. Any voices with the same LSB setting belong to the same voice Bank and often share specific characteristics EG XG bank 40 (dark) XG bank 20 resonant. Bank 112 is the most general Preset/Panel voice bank and generally includes one voice for each of the program change numbers. Therefore the easiest way to change GM/XG voices to panel voices ( without looking up voice numbers in the manual) is to change the MSB to 112. IMPORTANT NOTE ! Unlike XG, and the imbedded GM voices, Panel /Preset voices also set up effects, but only when selected from the panel on the instrument! Panel voices selected by a sequencer or other PC program will select the voice but not the associate DSP effects. Yamaha voices are in banks that require both MSB and LSB to be sent. The LSB is no problem its just a decimal number. The MSB has to be calculated from the MSB number in the manual. Those of you that understand binary will be able to see this. those that don’t just take my word for it and calculate as below. In the later versions of Cakewalk and Sona changing the MSB is no prob.if you have an inst def file loaded, as all the calcs are done for you when you select a bank by name in track view. But if you don’t have an inst def, or your seq. doesn't, you can work it out as below
128 X MSB + LSB = Value (normal maths applies you must work in this order)
Some Yamaha Bank Changes
DRUMS = MSB 127 LSB 000 to find the val to enter in the Bank box of the Track view In your seq. program. Take 128 x MSB + LSB = 128 x 127 + 0 = 16256 this is the val for the bank change box
For Sfx kits MSB 126 LSB 000 take 128 x MSB+LSB = 128 x 126 + 0 =16128
Some Mega voices MSB 8 = 128 x 8 + 0 -1024 ( part of Tyros 2 mega voice bank)
Snd. effects bank MSB 64 LSB 000 =128 x 64 +0 = 8192
and so on for any other banks that req. a MSB Val. OR MSB + LSB val
Many of the BANKS FOR TYROS req. MSB + LSB val so don’t forget the last part it will not always be 0 as above.
Check your manual. for details.
Bits And Bobs
I’m sure that most of you already know this but some may find it helpful. The Yamaha keyboard sends and receives its Bank change data by Midi Controller 0 for MSB followed by Controller 32 for LSB then the voice no/program change no, of the chosen voice in that bank EG. Drums Msb 127 Lsb 000 Voice no 0 for Standard kit, or1 for Standard kit 2, or 16 for Rock kit etc. NOTE Voice numbering may start 0 or 1 . Normal midi practice is 0-127 based but most Yamaha keyboard manuals are 1-128 Check your manual, and deduct 1 from the voice no if applicable .Again a good inst def file will take care of this for you. Mike Head 05/02/08 Rev 20/04/16
Have fun Mike
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