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I have a hard time believing, as long as BiaB has been around, that timed backups were never added to this program's features. What can possibly be the reason for not including them? A false belief that BiaB never crashes? Because it does. Just recently I've dealt with two -- well, they weren't crashes, they were lockups, but they amount to the same thing when you have to manually shut down the program using the Task Manager, and you LOSE YOUR WORK!

I know that sometimes BiaB can pull itself out of (not responding) lockups, but not always. I confirmed this today when it locked up. I left it alone for a half hour and it was still in a (not responding) state. I had to manually shut it down, losing about an hour's worth of work I'd put into a file I'd been working on.

If I may use Cakewalk as an example, it actually uses two backup features -- one is a timed backup where the user can set the interval, and the other is a utility that activates after Cakewalk unexpectedly crashes. This utility asks the user if they would like a backup made of the current file(s), and when the user indicates "yes," the file(s) are saved to the same directory they came from. I deal with Cakewalk crashes on an all-too-frequent basis and I've found this last minute file rescue to be very useful. Essential. Because it saves the file from the last second the program was running, whereas the timed backup feature saves the file from the last 'save' interval.

So, BiaB folks, please give this request some serious consideration. It is way past due for BiaB to have a timed backup feature. And having the post-crash file save feature, like what Cakewalk does, is also a very handy thing to have. It's saved me mountains of work.

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If PG don't get around to it you could make one of them with AutoHotKey, it will send Save As to Biab every so many min/s, when the dialog comes up it will append the file name with with the next number. This would happen very quick as it's scripted.

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Good idea!

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Thanks Pipeline, I've never heard of that utility. But I'll look into it.

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+1 for automated backups, either timed or by number of changes.


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+1 number of changes / timed autosave option in menu.

Pipeline's idea is a workaround, but might break ongoing process. Should be coded to "save" when "nothing is happening"... not sure if that is possible.

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Try this AutoHotKey, if you don't have AutoHotKey install it https://www.autohotkey.com/
set it to Always On Top,
it will save every 2mins (120000)
Code:
#Persistent
SetTimer, BiabSaveAs, 120000
return

EDIT: corrected to 120000 is 2min
this is just a basic test model, a timer selector can be added to adjust
time between saves, but for now just edit the script in Notepad to change the milliseconds.
Close the GUI to stop saving.
If BB is playing it will pause and save then continue playing.
Try it on a test song that is a copy of your original.
You should get:

my song.SGU
my song[001].SGU
my song[002].SGU
my song[003].SGU
etc...

Remove the .mp4 and unzipp and run.

auto_save_as.zip.mp4

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You can download that again or change the 1200000 to 120000 is 2mins

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Definitely a valuable feature.

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Auto-backups are always a good idea. Especially with faulty VST plugins with may bring the host down.

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