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I have a very funny story for you folks that sort of related but not quite. As far as marijuana goes Texas is probably one of the toughest states there is in the country or at least it was. The governor inadvertently sort of legalized marijuana in the state of Texas. How did he do that I will tell you. He legalized the growing and sale and consumption of hemp. Hamp is exactly the same plant as marijuana in fact it is marijuana that doesn't have THC. The law states that the hemp in Texas can have up to but not including 3% THC. The marijuana test kits that the police carry in their vehicles and back at their offices and anywhere else are strictly go no-go type test kit does it have THC or does it not have THC so when an officer checks a bag of what looks like marijuana it could either be Hamp with a little bit of THC or could it be real marijuana with a lot of THC but he ain't going to be able to know what it is it has to go to Houston and be tested the cost is extremely prohibitive to do that if you're stopped in a traffic stop or or whatever and you've got a half an ounce of whatever it is on your possession in your possession that just letting everybody go they've been told to not have the dogs sniff for weed anymore so on so far so we can thank the governor of Texas
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Charlie,
I'll address the term "ignorant" first. You definitely did not use term "ignorant". That was an inference I made since you used the term "ill informed", a term normally used when someone wants to call another person ignorant without actually using that word.
From Google; What is another word for not informed?
"Synonyms for not informed: uninformed (adjective) unenlightened, blind, uninstructed, unconscious, negligent, oblivious, uneducated, unschooled, daydreaming, ignorant, deaf, inattentive, out to lunch, in the dark."
As you can see from the above list, ignorant is a synonym for not informed or ill informed so it's not a stretch for me to make that inference.
Part of one of the paragraphs you quoted from was "it's ridiculous for people to be put in jail for doing something that is none of the government's business or anyone else's business."
I'm not of the opinion that just because something is illegal that it's actually wrong. We have tons of stupid laws on the books that need to be purged. To lighten the mood a little I'll quote just a few from "16 Ridiculous Fishing Laws That Will Make Your Jaw Drop."
2. In Idaho, you may not fish from a camel’s back.
3. In Chicago, it is illegal to fish in your pajamas.
8. In Montana, it is illegal for married women to go fishing alone on Sundays, and illegal for unmarried women to fish alone at all.
10. In Ohio, it is illegal to get a fish drunk.
16. In New Jersey, it is against the law for a man to knit during the fishing season.
When we have stupid laws on the books it is the governments job to get them changed, not slavishly punish people for violating them.
Any kind of intoxicant can be abused and I'm not advocating that people do that. It'll destroy their lives and the people around them. Nothing is more obnoxious than a drunk that makes everyone around them miserable, but that doesn't mean drinking should be illegal. Just throw them in jail and punish them accordingly based on their crime.
The same goes for pot. Just for the record, I can't even remember the last time I smoked pot, but if I had the urge I believe I should be able to go out and buy it legally without having to worry about going to jail.
I've got things I have to attend to so I'll cut off my comments and get back to dishes, laundry, trash, etc.
Take care Charlie.
Last edited by bobcflatpicker; 01/02/20 11:01 AM.
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Correct. I definitely did not use word "ignorant". I didn't even use the synonym for ignorant you looked up - "not informed". I'm smart enough and educated enough to craft a sentence using the words I intend to convey my thoughts - not some convoluted insult. If my intent were to call you ignorant, I would have used the word. I clearly stated my comments were not personal and they were not. I purposely used the word "ill-informed" because it conveyed my thought about your true story example. I had no intent to debate your drug or drinking preference nor the state of Illinois voters decision regarding the legality of pot in their state.
"That was an inference I made since you used the term "ill informed", a term normally used when someone wants to call another person ignorant without actually using that word."
I have no need to engage you to why you would look up a word that again, I did not use to prove your misguided understanding of what I did say.
Definition of ill-informed. 1 : not having a lot of knowledge especially about current news and events ill-informed voters. 2 : not based on facts an ill-informed decision/opinion.
As you can see, my wording was based on the facts of your true story example of the Texas man arrested and convicted of a crime, not a secret insult toward you.
Your opinion of pot was not my purpose of comments. Your experience with pot was not my purpose of my comments. The facts of a news event you referenced was my purpose.
Best to you,
Charlie
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I'm not a user and never was but as a full time player in the 70's I was surrounded by people who were. Not just pot, everything. I would go to parties and might have a beer but that was it and I know I missed out on making important connections, meeting certain girls, lots of things because if you're not doing all that stuff you're not cool, they think you're a narc or something. I was very resentful at the time because of that, I was seriously trying to make it in music but was just too straight I guess.
Legalization is a very tough question, I totally understand and sympathize with both sides. I finally came down on legalization for the usual reasons. Basically it boils down to the same reasons Prohibition failed. One, people are going to what they want regardless and two, making millions of otherwise law abiding people into criminals.
This is a very tough choice, I don't use or like drugs or alcohol and don't care for people who do it to excess for that matter but I came down to legalization as the lessor of two evils. I never argue the point, either someone agrees or they don't.
Peace.
Bob
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Problem is it is not a victimless crime. If I went anywhere I had to pack up all my music gear and take it to a trusted friend's home.
I had to hide whatever prescription drugs I might have in the house.
Every family member I've talked to had stuff stolen. Yes, my brother in law stole from me too.
So, using might be a choice for you but think about what it does to your family. And, it became no longer a choice for my brother in law. No one dreams of growing up to be an addict.
...Deb
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