Originally Posted By: bobcflatpicker
Charlie,

It's fine to disagree with me but to take the things I said totally out of context and finish it off with an insult isn't okay.

To use an analogy, if I were to say that Prohibition was a terrible idea and accomplished nothing more than bolstering organized crime to levels never seen before and you were to respond by saying "so you think it's okay for people to get drunk, abuse their wives and children and lose their job and the family home?!"

Or, If I were to say that I support the second amendment and you were to respond by saying "so you want school shootings and armed uprisings to become even more commonplace ?!"

If you wanted to challenge my opinion on the legalization of pot, then do it without insulting me by saying things like "You all have every right to think as you wish but this paragraph above is the most ill-informed paragraph that's ever appeared in this forum..."

I'm not ill informed nor ignorant, ... I just have a different opinion than you have. Since we still have freedom of speech in the good old USA, I should be able to express that without having someone I consider a forum friend take my words out of context and insult me.


Bob, you have clearly misunderstood my comment and responded to a different context to what I said.

I stated from the outset, my remarks were not about you or anyone else. I stated from the outset you and all others are entitled to your opinions.
I copied the exact words, exactly as you wrote them and that was what I was directing my comments toward. I limited my remarks to those exact words, exactly as you stated them.

. You did not mention nor state your opinion for support or opposition to the legalization of pot in the paragraph I referenced my remarks to. The opinion you did express was "it's ridiculous for people to be put in jail for doing 'something' that is none of the government's business or anyone else's business. Your statement, along with "We need to stop trying to legislate things that are personal decisions. Stop making criminals out of people who are otherwise upstanding citizens." relate directly to your true story example about a guy in Texas's arrest!

. Your true story example tells of personal decisions the guy made that resulted in him being arrested and doesn't establish him as an otherwise upstanding citizen but his personal decisions got him arrested and convicted and labeled a criminal.

. Your comments assert that his criminal activity didn't warrant jail time nor particularly, the sentence he received.

. My response that you were ill-informed is because you don't establish his long sentence was due solely because the judge declared him a "career criminal". My experience is that it's unlikely your facts recalled as a kid are correct or complete. The judge likely had information regarding the suspect you didn't and even back those years ago, the sentence he rendered would have had to be within set guidelines and subject to review and appeal. The subject's defense attorney would be completely knowledgeable to the sentencing guidelines and would have reacted accordingly if a major error or intentional biased and excessive sentence by the judge occurred.

. I responded that people using drugs and/or alcohol, even in the privacy of their home can be harmful to themselves and others, including police, fire, EMS and neighbors. This was not an assumption but based on years of first hand personal experience.

So, I disagreed with your point about arrests and that people go to jail for doing something that's not government or others business even though illegal and you provide an example of a young man with both a prior record and a conviction and yet you have somehow read into my comment that I infringed on your personal opinion of Illinois legalizing pot... and you erroneously allege that I wrote you are ignorant.

The good news is I didn't mention your opinion of pot, nor the legalizing of pot in Illinois and the better news is I never wrote the word ignorant. Where did that come from???



Last edited by Charlie Fogle; 01/02/20 10:14 AM.
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