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Hello,
I have just Upgraded to version 2020 Pro ($69) and installed everything on my laptop, Rebuilt the Styles and it only shows 19 new ones but according to the description found on the Packages page, it should be more than 750.

I am very confused...??

Are those 750+ Style Repeats from my existing Styles?
I already had more than 4300 styles on my computer.

I appreciate if someone could explain the above.

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Hi,

If you are meaning the summary of information found at the link below...

https://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.pro.htm

...this details what the Pro package contains in full. It is not a description of what is added when upgrading from an older version of the program.

It looks like the 750 that you mention relates to MIDI styles and not Realtracks nor Realstyles.

To get a better understanding of this, I encourage you to talk to a sales rep. using Live Chat. (It's the blue square with a circle in it found on the lower right of the web page.)

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Originally Posted By: Noel96
Hi,


To get a better understanding of this, I encourage you to talk to a sales rep. using Live Chat. (It's the blue square with a circle in it found on the lower right of the web page.)




Tried that but Neil from PG does not reply.

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The Pro Package is the entry level package (despite the name). Other than getting the new version of the application itself, it seems the content you get (styles, RealTracks/RealDrums, etc) don't change much from year to year. You should look at the MegaPak or the UltraPak (which you can still upgrade for the difference in price you paid if you call PGMusic) if you want additional styles and RT/RD/MIDI content.


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I have just talked to Alyssa from PG Music and she confirmed that upgrading from 2018 to 2020 will not bring any new Styles, instruments or RealTracks.
Years ago I purchased the EVERYTHING PACK, so any new upgrades of the Standard BIAB Pro software will NOT add any new instruments as the Everything Pack already covered it.

I told her that it is misleading and confusing as the advert on the packages page, it clearly says that the user will get new Realtracks, Realstyles, loops, etc. etc.


IF YOU HAVE PURCHASED A BIGGER PACKAGE IN THE PAST, YOU WILL ONLY GET MORE REALTRACKS AND THE LIKE, ONLY IF YOU BUY A EVEN BIGGER PACKAGE, or separate extra packages, OTHERWISE YOU'LL ONLY GET THE MAIN SOFTWARE UPGRADED.

Now, that's not difficult to specify on the product options, PG MUSIC!!

Glad I did not upgraded last year, saved me some money towards this BIAB 2020 Pro software, and it looks like I won't be upgrading for a while to come.

Am I annoyed? Hell Yeah! I was offered a refund, but it was Time Consuming hassle to download and install the software and I did not want to undo it and go over it again to downgrade and maybe corrupting my computer file system... not worth more hassle.

Maybe I should have paid $49 (2020 Program Update)
and not $69 (Upgrade from 2018 or earlier or crossgrade).

I am not sure now if the BONUS Pack is also stuff that I already have from my Everything Pack.
The more I talk about it, The more confused I am...

Rant Over.

Now going to find out all these new improvements about the 2020 version in Reaper, but not wasting my time with RealBand.

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Seems like to get all the new Realtracks and stuff in other words to have it all again, you would need to buy the upgrade form 2018 or earlier Ultra Pak at $169, plus any other optional loops or Xtra style and 49 Pak.

Best to ask PG direct.


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biab-user,

If it's possible to go the extra US$100 to get the UltraPak, you will gain heaps of Realtracks. The ProPak has just over 300 Realtracks while the UltraPak has a bit over 2,900 Realtracks.

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Originally Posted By: musiclover
Seems like to get all the new Realtracks and stuff in other words to have it all again, you would need to buy the upgrade form 2018 or earlier Ultra Pak at $169, plus any other optional loops or Xtra style and 49 Pak.

Best to ask PG direct.


I should get the information directly from the "Packages" options.
It has taken years to find this out. They need to be transparent about it.

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Originally Posted By: Noel96
biab-user,

If it's possible to go the extra US$100 to get the UltraPak, you will gain heaps of Realtracks. The ProPak has just over 300 Realtracks while the UltraPak has a bit over 2,900 Realtracks.

Regards,
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Why would I need to spend $100 more, when I already paid for it years ago?
Like I already stated, I have more than 4300 Styles and Loads of RealTracks.

I urge people to not to spend more money for something they already have on their computer.

The applet for the current software type finder did not report that I already have the Everything Pak, instead it reported this:

You have a Pro package of Band-in-a-Box® 2020, which means you are eligible for the following upgrades:....

shocked PG Music to solve this issue or remove it from confusing people.

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But you have an old version of The Everything Pak going back a few years, lots of new Content has been created since you bought that Everything Pak.

So more New Realtracks exist that are not included in the basic packages like the pro pak.

At the end of the day I am sure you will agree its a personal decision whether to upgrade or not to the fuller packages.

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You have a Pro package of Band-in-a-Box® 2020, which means you are eligible for the following upgrades:....


I am not from PG Music but here is my take on the above...

It sounds like you ran the applet after installing BIAB 2020 ProPAK. To pick up what you had previously, it seems like the app would have needed to have been run prior to 2020's installation.

One other way to find out what you have, is to go to your Sales Account and have a look under My Products.

By the way, I don't know if this has been mentioned but if you are not happy, ask PG Music for a refund. They never quibble about this if you are within the "30 Day after purchase" time frame.

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Originally Posted By: musiclover
But you have an old version of The Everything Pak going back a few years, lots of new Content has been created since you bought that Everything Pak.

So more New Realtracks exist that are not included in the basic packages like the pro pak.

At the end of the day I am sure you will agree its a personal decision whether to upgrade or not to the fuller packages.


OK, so, how do I find out what are the different files between what I already paid for and the new ones included in the new software?

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Originally Posted By: Noel96
It sounds like you ran the applet after installing BIAB 2020 ProPAK. To pick up what you had previously, it seems like the app would have needed to have been run prior to 2020's installation.


This proves the fact that it does not take into account of past software... the one that had many more RealTracks and RealStyles than the much newer one!

Anyway, Noel, I am happy with the software! It is just the confusion of it all. If I knew about this before buying it, I would have saved myself the extra $20, by just gone with the program update. It's installed now. I don't like wasting time undoing it up with the possible chance of corrupting a stable laptop.

Thank you for your input on this.

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Originally Posted By: musiclover
But you have an old version of The Everything Pak going back a few years, lots of new Content has been created since you bought that Everything Pak.

So more New Realtracks exist that are not included in the basic packages like the pro pak.

At the end of the day I am sure you will agree its a personal decision whether to upgrade or not to the fuller packages.


OK, so, how do I find out what are the different files between what I already paid for and the new ones included in the new software?



Go to help at right side top of biab and click on the dropdown what addons do I have, it should show you all the new realtracks you are missing, if you want to you can drag and select all the details in that box and copy it in reply to forum.

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Originally Posted By: musiclover
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But you have an old version of The Everything Pak going back a few years, lots of new Content has been created since you bought that Everything Pak.

So more New Realtracks exist that are not included in the basic packages like the pro pak.

At the end of the day I am sure you will agree its a personal decision whether to upgrade or not to the fuller packages.


OK, so, how do I find out what are the different files between what I already paid for and the new ones included in the new software?



Go to help at right side top of biab and click on the dropdown what addons do I have, it should show you all the new realtracks you are missing, if you want to you can drag and select all the details in that box and copy it in reply to forum.



Addons:
Styles Disks : 0 (Built-in) ,1 ,2 ,3 ,4 ,5 ,6 (Jazz) ,7 (Country) ,8 ,9 (Latin/Salsa) ,10 (Pop) ,11 (Classical) ,12 ,13 (Euro/Techno) ,14 Jazz Fusion ,15 (Nashville Country) ,16 (Blues) ,17 (Unplugged) ,18 ,19 ,20 ,21 ,22 ,23 ,24 ,25 ,26 ,27 ,28 ,29 ,30 ,31 ,32 ,33 ,34 ,35 ,36 ,37 ,38 ,39 ,40 ,41 ,42 ,43 ,44 ,45 ,46 ,47 ,48 ,49 ,50 ,51 ,52 ,53 ,54 ,55 ,56 ,57 ,58 ,59 ,60 ,61 ,62 ,63 ,64 ,65 ,66 ,67 ,68 ,69 ,70 ,71 ,72 ,73 ,74 ,75 ,76 ,77

Soloist Disk Sets : 1 (Basic) , 2 (Killer Jazz), 3 (Specialty Jazz), 4 (Rock), 5 Bluegrass, 6 Killer Pop,Older Jazz, 7 Blues,Pop, 8 Killer Jazz Waltz, Pop Waltz, 9 Blues Guit, 10 Ballads and Guitar, 11 Trumpet, 12 Andy Laverne Mainstream, 13 Andy Laverne Pentatonic, 16 Sax, 17 Trombone, 18 SoundTrack, 19 Modern Jazz Even 8, 20 Campfire/Children's


RealTracks sets in C:\bb\RealTracks\ : 1- RealTracks 1, 2- Country Ballad, 3- Swingin' Country, 4- Modern Country, 5- Rockin' Guitar, 6- All Metal!, 7- Jazz Bass & Rock Sax, 8- Country Folk, 9- Country Electric Guitar, 10- All Blues (Shuffle), 11- All Bluegrass (Rhythm), 12- All Bluegrass (Solos), 13- Older Jazz Swing Soloists, 14- Mainstream Swing - Jazz Rhythm Section, 15- Mainstream Swing - Jazz Soloists, 16- Bossa - Rhythm Section, 17- Bossa - Soloists, 18- Jazz Ballad - Rhythm Section, 19- Jazz Ballad - Soloists, 20- Dual Rock Guitars, 21- Clean Strat Rock, 22- Funk & Pop Bass, 23- Pop Acoustic Guitar, 24- Pop Swing 8ths Guitar, 25- Pop Swing 8ths Bass 1, 26- Pop Swing 8ths Bass 2, 27- "Dreamy" Pop Guitar, 28- Jazz Waltz, 29- Freddie and Wes - Jazz Guitar Comping, 30- Blues (Slow Swing), 31- Blues (Slow Even 8ths), 32- Blues (Fast Even 8ths), 33- Bluegrass (Medium Tempo), 34- Country Train Beat, 35- Chet and Travis Pickin', 36- Swingin' Country 2, 37- Swingin' Country 3, 38- Classic Country - Pedal Steel n' More, 39- Slow Country, 40- American Pop-Rock, 41- Rockin' Hard, 42- Boogie 'n Texas Rock, 43- Rockin' Down South, 44- Blues Guitar and Organ, 45- Driving British Rock, 46- Medium Pop - Harmonica, Organ and Bass, 47- Slow and Fast Pop - Harmonica & Organ, 48- Medium Modern Rock, 49- Spirited Acoustic Guitar, 50- More Bossa!, 51- Slow Bossas and more, 52- Fast Samba, 53- Slow Jazz Ballad - Rhythm Section, 54- Slow Jazz Ballad - Soloists & Solo Piano Accompaniment, 55- Fast BeBop Jazz, 56- Jazz, Old and New, 57- Jazz Swing, Laid Back, 58- Jazz and Pop Waltzes, 59- Crossover, 60- Country Rock, 61- Ballads and More, 62- Western Swing and Bluegrass, 63- Country Waltz 1, 64- Country Waltz 2, 65- Alt-Country, 66- Modern Nashville Pop, 67- Rockin' in 3/4 Time, 68- R 'n B Rock, 69- Rockin' in the North, Rockin' in the South, 70- Piano Pop, 71- Folk-Rock, 72- Smooth Jazz - Swing 16ths Hip Hop, 73- Smooth Jazz - Ballad and Pop, 74- Ballroom Latin, 75- More Bossa, 76- More Jazz Waltz, 77- Ballad, Stride & More, 78- Memphis Swing, 79- Medium Country Boogie, 80- Fast Country Boogie, 81- More Country Swing, 82- More Country Waltz, 83- LA Hard Rock, 84- Lite Pop, 85- Rockin' Bass, 86- Blues Rock, 87- Electric for all Occasions, 88- 12-String Electric, 89- Northern Rock Ballad, 90- Jazz Organ, 91- Smooth Jazz - Sax Soloing, 92- Smooth Jazz - Trumpet Soloing, 93- Smooth Jazz - Rhythm Guitar & Electric Piano Soloing, 94- Jazz Guitar Soloing and More, 95- Jazz Rhythm Guitar: Bossa and Swing, 96- Modern Bluegrass Waltz, 97- Unplugged Country Swing, 98- Unplugged, 12-String & Fiddle, 99- More Country Waltz: Pedal Steel, Bass & Fiddle, 100- More Western Swing: Pedal Steel & Electric Guitar, 101- Folk and Country Swing, 102- Uptempo Reggae, 103- Slow Groovin' Reggae, 104- Celtic Jigs & Reels, 105- Brent Mason Rock Soloing, 106- Calypso Pop, 107- Medium Pop Waltz, 108- More Rockin' Bass, 109- Gypsy Jazz - Fast Swing, 110- Gypsy Jazz - Ballad, 111- Jazz Vibes - Comping, 112- Jazz Vibes - Soloing, 113- Smooth Jazz - Cool Guitar and Electric Piano, 114- Smooth Jazz - Poppy Guitar and Electric Piano, 115- Mike LeDonne's Swingin' Jazz Piano, 116- Praise & Worship - Shining 8ths, 117- Praise & Worship - Uplifting 16ths, 118- Brent Mason Country Soloing, 119- TexMex 2-Beat, 120- TexMex Country, 121- More Country Banjo, Fiddle & Steel, 122- 70s Soul, 123- Celtic Hornpipes & Slipjigs, 124- More Pop-Rock Bass, 125- Crossover Pop, 126- Fast Pop Waltz, 127- Groovin' Jazz Funk, 128- Gypsy Jazz Latin, 129- Gypsy Jazz Waltz, 130- Mike LeDonne - More Swingin' Piano & Organ, 131- More Swingin' Jazz Guitar, 132- Paul Franklin - Pedal Steel Country Soloing, 133- More Brent Mason Country Soloing, 134- Praise & Worship Power, 135- Praise & Worship Believe, 136- More Swingin' Country: Bass, Guitar, Fiddle & Piano, 137- John Jarvis Rockin' Piano, 138- '60s Soul, 139- Folkie 16ths, 140- Texas Blues-Rock Shuffle, 141- Pop 16ths Ballads, 142- Pop 16ths Medium, 143- Dixieland - Fast Rhythm Section, 144- Dixieland - Fast Soloists, 145- Jazz-Funk Breezy, 146- Jazz Fusion Soloing, 147- Mike LeDonne Bossa, 148- Solo Accompaniment Jazz Guitar, 149- Pedal Steel Country with Paul Franklin, 150- Fancy Fingerpicking, 151- Praise & Worship - Promise, 152- Country Drivin' 8ths, 153- Bluegrass Waltz & More, 154- Brent Mason Classic Country, 155- John Jarvis Pop Piano, 156- Texas Blues-Rock: Straight-8ths, 157- Texas Blues-Rock: Rock 'n' Roll, 158- Modern Dance Pop, 159- Folk-Pop Ballads, 160- Jazz-Funk Movin', 161- Mike LeDonne Jazz Waltz Organ, 162- Dixieland - Medium Rhythm Section, 163- Son Montuno, 164- Bolero, 165- John Jarvis Country Piano, 166- Praise & Worship - Modern Groove, 167- Country Boogie and More, 168- Western Swing Soloists, 169- Killer Country Soloing, 170- Texas Blues-Rock: Slow Groovin' 12:8, 171- Medium Folk-Pop 8ths, 172- EuroDance, 173- Celtic Bouzouki and Guitar, 174- Pop Mandolin, Piano, and Guitar, 175- Texas Blues-Rock: Smokin' Blues Sax, 176- R&B Horns, 177- Guajira & Guaracha, 178- Dixieland - Medium Soloists, 179- Guitar - Jazz and More!, 180- Classic Jazz Piano, 181- Smooth Jazz Piano, 182- More Pedal Steel Country with Paul Franklin, 183- Country Soloists: Sax and More!, 184- More John Jarvis Country Piano, 185- More Killer Country Soloing, 186- John Jarvis Solo-Accompaniment Piano, 187- More Fancy Fingerpicking with Brent Mason, 193- Dance: Disco & More, 199- JazzPop Piano, 200- New Orleans - Swingin' Pop, 215- Jazz Pollwinners 6 - Sax & Guitar Soloing, Ballads & Bossas, 233- New Age Piano and more, 236- Crooner Big Band Horns!, 244- Jazz Background Horns with Jack Stafford, 268- Gypsy: Accordion, Piano and Guitar, 273- Hard Rock Shuffle, 281- More 12-key Hi-Q-Tab Brent Guitar, 12-key Eddy Pedal Steel...

You have all of the Style disks (unless we've made some new ones)

You have all of the Soloist disks! (unless we've made some new ones)

RealDrums sets in C:\bb\Drums\ :
(this shows no info but there are lots of sub folders in it. Maybe buggy software?)


RealTracks sets in C:\bb\RealTracks\ : 188- Slow Background Pop Horn Section, 189- Blues Baritone Sax with Gary Smulyan, 190- New Orleans Boogie!, 191- Funky Electric Piano & More, 192- Dance: GirlPop, 90s & more!, 194- Jazz Pollwinners 1 - Great Saxes: Phil Woods & Gary Smulyan, 195- Jazz Pollwinners 2 - Pat Martino Guitar, 196- Jazz Pollwinners 3 - Killer JazzSwing Rhythm Sections, 197- Jazz Pollwinners 4 - Killer Bossa Rhythm Sections, 198- Jazz Electric Piano, 201- Brent Mason Nylon & Electric, 202- Folk & Country Bouzouki, 203- Country Waltz, 204- Country Shuffle, 205- Country Award Winners - Mandolin (Andy), Piano (John) & Resonator Guitar (Rob), 206- Pop String Quartet, 207- Funky Horns, 208- Rockabilly Set 1 - Fifties Rock and Roll!, 209- Rockin' Blues Baritone Sax with Gary Smulyan, 210- Motown Uptempo R & B, 211- Motown Vintage Keys and More!, 212- World Synths, 213- Country Piano and Strings, 214- Jazz Pollwinners 5 - Killer JazzWaltz Piano, Bass & Drums, 216- Jazz Pollwinners 7 - Swingin' Sax & Guitar Soloing, 217- Jazz Pollwinners 8 - Jazz Waltz Sax Solos, 218- Rockabilly Set 2 - Jive!, 219- Funky Folk & More!, 220- Flute and Saxes with Jack Stafford, 221- Rockabilly Set 3 - BoomChicka!, 222- Rockabilly Set 4 - Slow Swing, 223- New Orleans Mardi Gras 16ths, 224- New Orleans Shuffle, 225- Banjo and Guitar - Hip Folk, 226- Requested Drums, 227- Brent Mason - Baritone Guitar and More!, 228- Modern Pop with Zane Carney, 229- Great Pop Drums and Percussion, 230- Surf Rock!, 231- Retro Synths and Modern R 'n' B, 232- Pop String Quartets, 234- Acoustic Bass, Back To Basics, 235- Punk!, 237- Jon Herington Jazz-Rock Guitar, 238- Danny Gottlieb Jazz Drums, 239- Great Funk Bass with Alex Al, 240- Straight Ahead Funk!, 241- Swingin' Funk!, 242- Praise Break!, 243- Blues Baritone and Resonator Guitars, 245- Brent Mason - Country Blues Rock and More, 246- Country Bent-Note Piano with John Jarvis, 247- Country Brushes and Percussion, 248- Oberkrainer! Folk Music From the Alps, 249- Old Time Folk, 250- Rockabilly Swing, 251- Traditional Celtic Percussion, 252- Modern Country Pedal Steel, 253- Country Fingerpicking with Joe Robinson, 254- 12-key Hi-Q Guitar, PedSteel, Piano, 255- Amazing Modern Pedal Steel, 256- Brent Mason Nylon Guitar, 257- A Taste of Peru, 258- Latin America, 259- Old Time and Celtic, 260- Celtic Harp, 261- Sounds of Hawaii, 262- Great Country Drums with Shannon Forrest, 263- Songwriter's Guitar and Cello Toolkit, 264- Crooner Bossa Big Band!, 265- Crooner Ballad Big Band!, 266- Jazz & Funk Potpourri, 267- More Blues: Blues with Brent and Mike, 269- Smooth Soul with Brent and Mike, 270- Modern Pop Waltz with Zane Carney, 271- House and More, 272- Rap and Hip Hop, 274- Hard Rock Straight Ahead, 275- Retro 60s Drums, 276- Pop Percussion, 277- Pop and Rock Drums with Shannon Forrest, 278- Shiny Vocal Ooos & Ahhs!, 279- Americana: Slow Groovin' 12-8 & 16ths, 280- Americana: Gritty Blues & Rockabilly Swing, 282- Country Songwriter: Guitar & Keys, 283- Jelly-Roll Country Hamonica, 284- "Canadiana" Old Time Guitar, Banjo and Stompin', 285- Celtic Piano & Harp, 286- Pop & Rock Guitars with Brent and Joe, 287- Pop Songwriter: Acoustic Guitar, 288- Southern Pop Drums with Land Richards, 289- Fretless Bass, Pop Keys & Punk Drums, 290- More Pop Percussion Singles, 291- Modern Dancehall, 292- Klezmer!, 293- A Taste of Europe: France, Italy & Sweden, 294- Big Band "Crooner" Soloist!, 295- Jazz Potpourri with 12-key Guitar, SoulJazz Piano..., 296- Modern Jazz Bass & Drums, 297- More Smooth Jazz & Fusion, 298- Mariachi!, 299- Rootsy Blues Guitar & Piano, 300- Smokin' Fast Jazz Bass, 301- Modern Funk with Bob Lanzetti, Mark Lettieri..., 302- A Taste of Brazil with Alex Acuna..., 303- Blues Harp with LD Miller, 304- BluesShuffle Horn Section, 305- Funky Acoustic Guitar with Colin Linden..., 306- Tango and More!, 307- World Guitar, Percussion, and more..., 308- Djembe and more with with Keita Ogawa, 309- More Blues with Sol Philcox, 310- Acoustic and Electric Guitar Pop Soloists..., 311- "Cinematic" Electric Guitar with Darin Favorite, 312- A Taste of Europe 2, 313- More Klezmer!, 314- Pop Acoustic Bass & Accordion, 315- Rock & Grunge Acoustic Guitar, 316- More Southern Pop Drums with Land Richards, 317- Guitar and Piano for Songwriters, with Brent Mason..., 318- Campfire 12-String and 6-String Guitar, 319- Amazing Modern Pedal Steel 2 with Eddy Dunlap, 320- Chicken Pickin' with Johnny Hiland!, 321- Americana Fiddle & Mandolin with Andy Leftwich, 322- Americana Folk 6:8, with Brent Mason..., 323- Americana Folk 8ths & 16ths, with Brent Mason..., 324- Americana Keys and Resonator Guitar with Mike Rojas..., 325- Celtic Cello with Natalie Haas, 326- Celtic Nylon and 12-String Guitar with Quinn Bachand, 327- Celtic Fiddle, Banjo, Guitar, and Mandolin Soloists..., 328- Gospel Low Vocal Mmms, 329- Fusion and Gritty Funk, 330- Lounge JazzFunk Jeff Lorber, 331- Latin America with Alex Acuna, 332- More Blues with Johnny Hiland, 333- Rhythm Changes Comping and Soloing, 334- Jazz Blues Changes Comping and Soloing, 335- Rootsy Funk and More, 336- Bossa Horn Section, 337- Island Grooves, 338- Classic Guitars 1, 339- Classic Guitars 2, 340- Classic Guitars 3, 341- Cinematic Metal with Darin Favorite, 342- Singer-Songwriter, 343- All Ska! Classic and Modern, 344- Cool Swing16 Gospel Vocals, 345- Bluesy Baritone with Brent Mason, 346- Old-Time Music 1, 347- Old-Time Music 2, 348- Old-Time Music 3, 349- Celtic Guitar, Bodhran & Jaw Harp, 350- Country Rock and Ballad Soloing, 351- Country Pollwinners 1, 352- Country Pollwinners 2

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"RealDrums sets in C:\bb\Drums\ : (this shows no info but there are lots of sub folders in it. Maybe buggy software?)"

is not a bug - if you look it is under heading:


"These add-ons are NOT (emphasis mine) found"


if you want to see your real drums there should be a "verbose" section between Soloists and Realtracks that lists the RealDrums your installed

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As Realtracks sets 301-352 cover the last two years new content(sets 301-328 being 2019) that last list of realtracks at first glance seems to indicate a lot of realtracks missing, so maybe you haven't upgraded in a good number of years, the good news though is it will only cost you the same amount to upgrade an older everything pak to the 2020 Ultra Pak which is $169

Wss it the Everuything pak you bought in 2018 (As you do say that once you bought it) or was it the pro oak, the point being that once you have bought the best pak such as the Everything or Ultra its never really cost effective and can only lead to confusion if you upgrade to a lessor pak in future years.

It can be really confusing I know, but once you have this years ultra pak in future years it is generally only the Plus pak per year you need, to keep you current which this year is once again $99.

If you did buy an everything pak in 2018 then I am surprised that so many realtracks missing, ok there are added additons you can buy at an extra cost called the 49 pak but I would not think that so many realtracks are missing if that is indeed what the last list shows.

Stay with it, you will get it sorted.

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Originally Posted By: Larry Kehl
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"RealDrums sets in C:\bb\Drums\ : (this shows no info but there are lots of sub folders in it. Maybe buggy software?)"

is not a bug - if you look it is under heading:


"These add-ons are NOT (emphasis mine) found"


if you want to see your real drums there should be a "verbose" section between Soloists and Realtracks that lists the RealDrums your installed

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OK, now I get it. Thanks Larry.

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Originally Posted By: musiclover
As Realtracks sets 301-352 cover the last two years new content(sets 301-328 being 2019) that last list of realtracks at first glance seems to indicate a lot of realtracks missing, so maybe you haven't upgraded in a good number of years, the good news though is it will only cost you the same amount to upgrade an older everything pak to the 2020 Ultra Pak which is $169

Wss it the Everuything pak you bought in 2018 (As you do say that once you bought it) or was it the pro oak, the point being that once you have bought the best pak such as the Everything or Ultra its never really cost effective and can only lead to confusion if you upgrade to a lessor pak in future years.

It can be really confusing I know, but once you have this years ultra pak in future years it is generally only the Plus pak per year you need, to keep you current which this year is once again $99.

If you did buy an everything pak in 2018 then I am surprised that so many realtracks missing, ok there are added additons you can buy at an extra cost called the 49 pak but I would not think that so many realtracks are missing if that is indeed what the last list shows.

Stay with it, you will get it sorted.

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I purchased the EverythingPak many years ago.

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Ah ok well the purchase of that Everything Pak is still in a sense paying you a dividend as it entitles you to upgrade to the Ultra Pak at the special price while the sale lasts if you decide to do so.

I would think that if you decide to do so then its only the difference that you have to pay for this years purchase pro-Ultra.

Then if you decide to upgrade at end of year 2020 it will only be $99 for the Plus pak, if that price still remains the same as it has done for years.

Happy New Year to you and happy music making.

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