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Thank you Matt for taking time today to help. And thank you to all others as well. I understand better where the issue is coming from. So now I'm gonna see if I can change the processor within the all in 1 computer and aim for a more powerful one. I presume that a recent Intel i7 will be the best ?
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Yes, do check if you can replace the MoBo and CPU. An Intel i7 is probably the best way to go. Even a high-end i5 would possibly be satisfactory. It doesn't need to be top of the line, but the i7 range is going to be your friend. Check also the power supply requirements and pin configurations. You need to know if the connector(s) on the MoBo are compatible with your existing power supply or if that might need replacing as well. (And with a smart performing system you'll have playback in a few seconds instead of the eternity it is taking now  )
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Calculate how much it would cost to upgrade your existing computer then head over to Tigerdirect.com and view what they have in refurbished computers. Many have a year warranty. You may find a better deal in buying one then upgrading your system.
I have ordered a number of refurbished computers from them. I only had one bad one but they immediately took it back and replaced it. They are a very reputable company.
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Hi Angelo, When you say...
Now the song has been generated but I stop it before it starts and want to start on another bar :
- without freezing : 9,3 seconds inspite of the song having been generated already (for the 1st time I try randomly, after that it's ok)
-when freezing all the tracks : 1,4 sec
I'd just like to clarify this a little more... When a song is stopped before it begins playing, chances are that it hasn't fully generated. How BIAB generates is... - 1. It generates the first few bars of the chordsheet (I'm guessing around 8 or so).
- 2. The song then starts playing.
- 3. While the song plays, the rest of the backing is generated as a background process.
This means that if a song is interrupted before it starts to play back, then the generating process is also potentially interrupted. The consequence of this is that next time you go to play the song, the generating will also potentially need to start from scratch again. This sounds like one of the things that might be happening to you. To double-check that generation is complete. Double-click on the bar with "end" written in it. - If generation truly has finished, playback will start immediately.
- If it has not finished, you will need to wait until the generation routine completes its assembling up to that last bar (that was double-clicked).
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Perfectly legit to discuss here what to do if you want better BIAB performance.
I'm hoping your HP is not a laptop. I've built all my own computers since 1982 and I would not attempt that. In addition, if it's a desktop, HP obtains low retail costs by cutting out some helpful things, like ports for additional internal drives or making components removable. I messed with trying to upgrade an HP once - never again.
I would be especially reluctant to try to swap an HP motherboard. More than likely, you would need a new motherboard, CPU and RAM type. You might also discover you can't even remove the old stuff because it's soldered in, or even if you can, you may not be able to fit and secure the new one. They really don't expect you to alter the internals of an HP computer.
I like Mario's suggestion.
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@Videotrack : ok so a quick search and unfortunately it seems that I can't upgrade the processor (*sob sob*). @MarioD : thanks for the url that I was not aware of. Directly put in my bookmarks for future uses! @Noel : thank you for the trick. I understand better how BIAB does work. Btw, I loved "What do you say", very nice crooner vibe!  @Matt : no it is not a laptop. It's a good computer believe if or not and so far I could do everything I wanted with fast response. But as you said BIAB requires LOT of CPU. You saw correctly, as I said in this 2 in 1 computer you can't really change anything. Ok so between my first whining post and now things have improved even if my BIAB is not as fast as I would like. To sum up what helped : - deactivate background running stuff - getting rid of 1 antivirus out of 2 - whitelisting the c:\\bb directory in my antivirus - learn how to use the Freeze function (now I see the benefits and it helps a LOT) - also and I didn't mention it before the usage of "repeat" within BIAB helps accelerate things. I noticed that I had a few bars doubled (AA pattern). So instead of leaving AA on BIAB (2 exact same bars back to back) I cut each doubled bar and I used on the remaining one the "repeat" function so that each one of those bars repeats itself twice. It lightens up the numbers of bars on my BIAB and I could feel that BIAB had to work less so to speak (aka take less time to regenerate). I know now that I won't have a ferrarri BIAB but between this morning (unbearable) and tonight there is a good improvement especially knowing that so far I'm using 5 different RTs, so all things considered it's not that bad now.
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While no minimum score has been explicitly stated, a discussion about two years ago recommended a score around 1500 minimum for you to be pleased with the performance. A lot of people seem to underestimate how powerful a program this is and how much it uses computer resources. Matt, that number has to be wrong. I looked at the Intel i7 single core numbers on the Geekbench website and saw that none of the ones listed on the first page are that high, including those running above 3 GHz. I have an Intel Q9650 running at 3 GHz (which has a single core rating of 454) in my 10-year old Dell Optiplex 780 computer, and BiaB only takes 10-20 seconds max to generate a full arrangement with five RTs for a decent length song. So, Angelomusic's slow BiaB performance doesn't make any sense to me because his CPU single core rating is 1193.
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Matt, take a look at the following chart. The fastest CPU at the top of the chart isn't even rated at 1500. So, I would like to know what is a good benchmark rating to use as a reference for BiaB? https://browser.geekbench.com/processor-benchmarks
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Thanks. I’ll check again to see if the numbers for version 4 are the same as earlier versions, where I’m reasonably sure I cited the correct number. But it gets worse: apparently there is a version 5 of Geekbench now, and those are the numbers you listed. It appears to be a completely different scale. I appreciate the heads up.
I should also point out that if I recall correctly Dr. Gannon did not provide a hard number; it was just a general range to serve as a guideline. As far as I know, BIAB will work on quite slow machines; it will just be slower and the question as above will be whether you can live with it or not.
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Higher scores are on the multe-core CPUs. Click on the multi-core window to view them. {Edit} - note that Geekbench 4 yields higher single core CPU scores https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/singlecore
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The only number Dr. Gannon mentioned was the single-core score. But again, that was an earlier version of Geekbench. Later I will get the new version 5 and run some comparisons, since I still use version 4.
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Thanks Matt for checking and thanks to the other member for bringing that up. Lately I had to wait between 25 to 48 seconds each time so the sunshine was temporary. I still need BIAB to express my artistic idea so most likely I will stick with it but I'm not gonna lie, this is painful 
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OK, here's the answer.
I have an older Intel Core i-7-4790 running at 4 GHz.
My single-core score in Geekbench 4 is 3970.
My single-core score in Geekbench 5 is 830.
Totally different scales!
Assuming things are linear, since the tests appear to be the same, then the new minimum score for Geekbench 5 would appear to be somewhere around 300 - 320.
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OK, here's the answer.
I have an older Intel Core i-7-4790 running at 4 GHz.
My single-core score in Geekbench 4 is 3970.
My single-core score in Geekbench 5 is 830.
Totally different scales!
Assuming things are linear, since the tests appear to be the same, then the new minimum score for Geekbench 5 would appear to be somewhere around 300 - 320. Thanks, Matt! Those differences between the two scores are ridiculous. Is there a benchmark chart for Geekbench 4? I couldn't find any. Also, did you see what it says in the explanation at the top of the Benchmark Chart for Geekbench 5? Check this out: "Geekbench 5 scores are calibrated against a baseline score of 1000 (which is the score of an Intel Core i3-8100)" I scrolled down the chart and found an i7-4790s at 3.2 GHz with a score of 929, which is comparable to yours. I also found my Quad Core Q9650 at 3 GHz with a score of 429, which is above the minimum of 300-320 that you mentioned. So, this seems to explain why I have decent performance for BiaB with my system. Now I'm curious what Angelomusic's Geekbench 5 score would be.
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Thanks, Mario, for the link to this Geekbench 4 chart. That's what I was looking for but couldn't find. However, I think the Geekbench 5 chart is a better reference because all the CPUs are listed on a single page.
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Thanks guys!
Well, no surprise here, my single core score under Benchmark 5 is.... (drum roll) : 239
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EDIT : can expanding RAM help in my case or is it useless because it's all about the core processor ?
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Thanks guys!
Well, no surprise here, my single core score under Benchmark 5 is.... (drum roll) : 239
:'(
EDIT : can expanding RAM help in my case or is it useless because it's all about the core processor ? Well, that pretty much explains your problem. Do you have your OS on an SSD? That would probably help more than additional RAM. I believe you already have 8 GB of RAM, which is more than enough to run BIAB on Win 10 64-bit. But I think you would be better off getting another PC---either a refurbished one from TigerDirect (as Mario had suggested) or a refurbished Dell minitower. I bought my mother a refurbished Dell Optiplex 7100 or 7200 with an i3 two years ago for only $189 with free shipping and a 90-day warranty. That PC is about as fast as my Optiplex 780, but they have a lot of other PCs that are much faster than that, and I'm sure TigerDirect does, too. You should be able to find a decently-fast PC for $200-300 that will keep you going for 5-10 years, especially if you put a 500 GB Samsung SSD in it.
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Yes, now we are able to compare similar fruit.
Changing the RAM and storage media can certainly improve the performance of BIAB as I have mentioned, but I think you asked if it will improve the Geekbench score. That answer is No, assuming you run that first test for CPU. Something like the Windows Experience Index score is a better measure of your machine’s overall performance, and you can find this for free in Control Panel, System.
So you have one of those PCs with a CPU perhaps less than what someone would find tolerable. I think we have sufficiently answered your questions in this thread. Good luck.
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I scrolled down the chart and found an i7-4790s at 3.2 GHz with a score of 929, which is comparable to yours. i should mention that, rather than over clocking, I intentionally run my CPU at about 90% of capacity to reduce heat. Just a personal choice to ensure stability and a long problem-free life for my components.
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Thanks all for your helping me understand.
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- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
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