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I realize the plugin is not top priority here. The core or flagship product Band in a Box is. However I feel after two development cycles the plugin should at the very minimum be higher on the food chain. It still has several areas where it needs attention in order for the plugin to be truly useable.

1. Render or sync to Tempo
2. Render Flat
3. Render Dry
4. Render Center pan
5. MIDI Drums not matching to Real Drums (in Studio One)
7. Bar settings (change style is not changing style)

Let’s just be real for a minute. No one thinks that BiaB is not the flagship here but to keep the plug in as an add on is being very short sited. There are so many more DAW users out there compared to those that use BiaB that it is silly not to focus on this product. BiaB is feature rich, and most users never scratch the surface. If it never received another single new feature it would be a fine product. For now just fix the dozen old bugs people have been asking about for years. Focus your attention on this plugin and attract the tens of thousands of young DAW users who will never use BiaB, but would love to have a ripping cool plugin to pound out track bases for song creation.

I think this product is key to the future of PGM, and in fact BiaB as a whole.

If you think I’m wrong imagine this. If PGM had not created RTs and RDs how many would still use it, and how many new users would have bought it. I can tell you I would not have updated it faithfully like I have if not for real tracks!

Peter, The plugin is your new RTs, another breath of life into your company for the future.

Last edited by Rob Helms; 01/15/20 03:27 AM.

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Originally Posted By: Rob Helms
1. Render or sync to Tempo

Are you talking about the global tempo of the host or about tempo maps?

Originally Posted By: Rob Helms

2. Render Flat
3. Render Dry
4. Render Center pan

You mean the settings in the plugin are currently doing nothing?

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both and yes. tempo maps to me are important. sync is as well.


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For now just fix the dozen old bugs people have been asking about for years.


Your overall post makes good points but I disagree with your use of the word "bug" concerning things posted about for years. From Wilipedia:

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A software bug is an error, flaw or fault in a computer program or system that causes it to produce an incorrect or unexpected result, or to behave in unintended ways.


Getting rid of the 255 bar limit for example has been in the Wishlist for years but that limit is explained in the documentation. Not a bug, to want to expand that number is a feature request.

You talk about attracting new customers which is certainly ok with me but don't use the word bug unless it's a true bug such as those with the plugin. You make it sound like PGM has been unresponsive to the same bug reports for 20 years which in turn scares away potential customers. Take another one, odd time sig support. Nowhere does it say Biab does that. 4/4 and 3/4 (6/8) is all that's natively supported and they talk about how 5/4 and some others will play correctly but not look right in notation. That's in the documentation too so it's not a bug either just another Wishlist feature request.

There are some issues with occasional endings and shots/holds that don't sound quite right or one instruments hangs on a bar too long. Some of those could be bugs in some RT's or something.

It's certainly fair to say PGM has ignored all these feature requests but they're not bugs.

If I'm wrong here and you are really referring to actual bugs in Biab then pick one and post it as a formal bug report in a new thread.

Bob


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Copy that, there are some bugs, but surely I am referring more to things like that. So I stand corrected.


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