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I think you should give Tracktion 7 a go. Entirely free.

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Matt, My stereo file editor has been Sound Forge ever since it first came out of the old Sonic Foundry Company that developed the ACiID loop program. I’ve stuck with it through its ownership by Sony and now Magix. They are in version 13 at the moment and it’s evolved into something way beyond its initial focus as a stereo file editor but even though it is now a multiTrack DAW, it still boots up as a stereo file initially. It’s always been very stable.


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Keith, I only have version 10. I’ll look at the new version; thanks.


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Hi Matt, how have you been? Like you, I was a LONG time user of Cool Edit Pro, 1999, and all the way through until Audition started doing the subscription-based stuff a few years back. One of my main reasons for dropping Adobe after so long was that I wanted to get hot and heavy into MIDI and it kind of lacked in that area. At the time I was reading the Recording Revolution a lot and loved Graham's video demonstrations in his preferred DAW, Pro Tools. I started using the free version (Pro Tools First) to see if I liked it while I was still subscribing to Adobe. Since Graham had so many videos and tutorials in Pro Tools, I started picking it up a lot faster than I thought I would. I dumped Adobe and haven't looked back since. The first couple of years I used it, I did the subscription thing. Last fall I purchased a perpetual license since I'm not a big fan of subscription. I get a year of software updates and then I just keep the software for myself as long as I want.

So at the least Matt, give Pro Tools First a try to see if you like it. Aside from a lot of good editing features, I do love all their default plugins, very good quality. Also, all of those free Focusrite plugins we get from our hardware and all the Ozone ones work really good in the DAW.

Good luck hunting!

P.S. - The Pro Tools audio editor is very similar to multitrack mode in Adobe. To edit a single track like you would in single track mode in Adobe, you simply just grab and stretch the track you want to edit so it fills the screen.

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I love audacity. However, I’m not too sure what you need to do on “stereo editing”.


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HI Joanne

Audacity can be used in stereo just select stereo recording see pic.
You then get l&R meters for record and playback
And stereo tracks, is this what you mean?
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Matt, My stereo file editor has been Sound Forge ever since it first came out of the old Sonic Foundry Company that developed the ACiID loop program.


I used to use Sound Forge many years ago (along with ACID Music from Sonic Foundry), didn't realize it was still around.

Does it have the ability to easily punch in audio in the middle of a track? The ability to easily punch in is the main reason I've stuck with Audition 1.5 all these years, Audition does punch in's way better than Reaper.

Maybe I'll just download the demo and try it out, the price is certainly reasonable.

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Perhaps it's better to be quiet and appear ignorant than to open one's mouth and confirm it...but smile

From start to finish with our productions I never see a need for any kind of "editor" other than my DAW, Logic Pro X. Guess I'm missing something...for which there is ample precedent.

I will use Amadaus Pro to listen to song files and on occasion convert formats.

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Guess I'm missing something...for which there is ample precedent.

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Probably the best way to explain things is to point out that when digital recording first appeared, the work flow was to do the mixing in the DAW and the pre mastering in a stereo editor. As time went on, the existing DAWs began adding features found in Stereo Editors and the Stereo Editors started turning into DAWs. If you didn’t pay attention to the gradual evolution to common features it’s easy to understand why you would scratch your head about why someone would still include both a DAW and a stereo editor in their work flow.

One aspect of Sound Forge that has kept me in the Stereo Editor fold is the surgical precision that the software can cut at the zero crossing on a wave form. Back when I was doing a lot of my editing on a TASCAM 788, I struggled with the pops that occurred when you cut and paste together digital recordings. There was an epiphany for me when I discovered that the solution to the pops was to make your cuts at the zero point of a wave form and to put them together at cuts where the pasted waveform continues the progression across the zero line.

Knowing that, and finding software with the required resolution to consistently pull off the cuts and pasted was the problem. All software lets you look at waveforms and cut them but I’ve not found anything that does it with the precision of Sound Forge. My pre mastering workflow has also gotten tied in a big was to SF.


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Years ago, I found a wave editor called WAVEPAD.... not to be confused with wavelab.

Wavepad is a free audio editor by NCH. Once the free trial expires you can elect to either buy the full version or continue to use it in a dialed back limited mode.

It easily does conversion from wave to mp3, removes the ending and start silence, it can insert silence at the start and it can normalize and do a number of other functions that I don't need, and all that from the limited mode.

It's not big and fancy, (maybe the full version is...IDK) but it does what I need.


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KeithS's post mentioned using TASCAM hardware. That reminded me TASCAM offers a free high resolution DSD and PCM editor. It's available from both the US and International TASCAM websites. +++ HERE +++ is a link to the US website. From the website:
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TASCAM Hi-Res Editor is a new, free application for Windows and Macintosh computers, that plays and edits up to 11.2MHz DSD or 384kHz WAV files. The software allows playback and export of DSD files without converting to PCM audio. This app is available now as a free download for Windows and Mac. Ideal for users of TASCAM’s hi-resolution recorders like the DA-3000, TASCAM's Hi-Res Editor is one of the only ways to edit native DSD master recordings.

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Bud, “Master a group? How the heck do you do that?”[

When you Master an album you do it as a group so that the songs all seem to have the same flow, relative volume levels. I never viewed a song as mastered, I mix a song, I master a group of songs for release. I guess it falls under the category potato patawto, or is it tomato tawmawto? Can’t remember


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With Tracktion the precise need to cut at a zero crossing is eliminated with very simple non destructive fading of many different types plus full access to all of your VST plugins on clips, tracks and output bus.

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Bud, “Master a group? How the heck do you do that?”[

When you Master an album you do it as a group so that the songs all seem to have the same flow, relative volume levels. I never viewed a song as mastered, I mix a song, I master a group of songs for release. I guess it falls under the category potato patawto, or is it tomato tawmawto? Can’t remember


Interesting. When I master I use a lot of different fx settings per song with the exception of “loudness” for which I approximate 13-14 LUFS for all songs. Otherwise I used different configurations based on each song. No way, for example, could I see using the same multi band compressor settings (and other mastering fx) for all the songs in an album project.

A big ole FWIW!

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