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Very interesting.
Don't let the French narration scare you; there are English captions.
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It will give more then 4 chords per bar.
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And you can place the chords on various push points.
I tried it. Be aware, it's all MIDI. Users of Yamaha equipment will have the easiest time using the styles.
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Pipeline.... Are you spying on me? I was just about to post this here  This developer took an aggressive swing to deliver! It is still very young and a bit clunky, compared to vArranger. But still, nothing but respect for this guy. Especially for the price - FREE! Just finished writing a support email to developer with some suggestions. Looking back, I was actually surprised that BIAB does not have support for styles of arranger keyboards. Maybe one day...
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It's an impressive introduction. I think it is very smart to use the Yamaha arranger styles as there is a huge collection of styles available for download over the internet. That takes a lot of pressure off the developer.
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Seems promising
But... (haven’t spent enough time to be totally sure of anything, nevertheless)
[*]The harmony parts (guitar, piano, keys) don’t know the right voicings for the interesting chords (susb9 for instance, but also lydian...) [*]There seem to be some chords missing, like the beautiful Cmaj7#5 [*]Most yamaha styles are no less cheesy than the old biab ones and biab has some nice ones, too [*]No score or sheet yet. [*]No xml or mgu import yet [*]Holds, pushes... don’t seem to apply to the drums
On the other hand, there seems to be some promise here [*]Odd meters! [*]Simple GUI [*]Song structure is simple and allows a lot of options [*]Great, easy soundfont (not High Quality, but decent and GM compatible)
Looks promising, sure does.
Biab, Kontakt, Sampletank and lots of nice libraries, from Fluffy audio to Abbey Road drums. Check out these great contemporary Jazz Styles: www.jazzstylezz.com
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I played with this for a couple of hours last night and here are some of my first thoughts and how they compare to yours. Seems promising
But... (haven’t spent enough time to be totally sure of anything, nevertheless)
[*]The harmony parts (guitar, piano, keys) don’t know the right voicings for the interesting chords (susb9 for instance, but also lydian...) [*]There seem to be some chords missing, like the beautiful Cmaj7#5 I did not notice this but again I was only using this for a couple of hours [*]Most yamaha styles are no less cheesy than the old biab ones and biab has some nice ones, too [*]No score or sheet yet. [*]No xml or mgu import yet [*]Holds, pushes... don’t seem to apply to the drums
Yes a couple were cheesy but most of what I tried were very useable. They are not as good as EZKeys' MIDI styles but in some cases better than or equal to BiaB MIDI styles. YMMV
You don't need a score or notation sheet as you can save the song as a mid file and load it into a notation program like the free Musecore.
You are right about the lacking file structures. I didn't mess with holds or pushes.
On the other hand, there seems to be some promise here [*]Odd meters! [*]Simple GUI [*]Song structure is simple and allows a lot of options [*]Great, easy soundfont (not High Quality, but decent and GM compatible)
Looks promising, sure does. I will add that adding chords at 16th notes and the fact that you can have more then 4 notes per chord are added pluses.
The bottom line for me is that if you are working mostly in MIDI this is something to look at and to keep an eye on. IMHO if this keeps on improving this software will be a big threat to the MIDI side of BiaB.
I think my wife has started to show the first signs of dementia. She said she can't remember what she ever saw in me!
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I will once I have more experience with this under my belt.
I think my wife has started to show the first signs of dementia. She said she can't remember what she ever saw in me!
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Nice find! Super easy install since I've been using the CoolSoft VirtualMIDISynth for years.
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Will this run an external module if I input the chords, would it run the modules style and change chords etc.
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Have a look Tools > Options > Midi
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Thanks Pipeline
I really appreciate your posts and Help.
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How do you add the styles to the programme ?.
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On my system, they were installed here:
C:\Users\Primary\JJazzLab\Rhythms
Where 'Primary' is your Windows User name.
There are different folders under Rhythms for different song types. The 'styles' files (.STY) are included in the Rhythms subfolders.
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Thanks ill have a look. I have a file realbook is that for the styles ?.
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Sounds interesting.. Just 2 questions before I download and install it for testing; Does it support VSTi ? AND, can import Midi files?
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It will import Impro-visor songs and Impro-visor will import midi tracks. You can use SaviHost with VSTSynthFont64 D.dll send midi from JJazzLab to SaviHost with LoopMidi.
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