that's a handy tip Matt, tried it and it seems a good starting point. the result so far is that if i bypass the fx after reducing it to half-ish or at least somewhat less, then with the track solo'd i can hear a difference when i kick it back in but it's a sonic improvement not an fx sound

it adds something but it's difficult to pin down. i did come across a quote once that said the best effects are the ones you can't hear!

Last edited by Bob Calver; 03/01/20 05:48 AM.