I'm not trying to ruffle feathers or be obstinate I know you come here with music in your heart and probably a big smile on your face and I know you have no bones to pick with PG or forum members (except now maybe now me - I hope not) but I'm still having trouble understanding, with respect to your FIRST reported issue, why you think this would have somehow been fixed faster or better if PG had given Ken a copy of BIAB?

To begin: PG may or may not have already given Kenneth a copy of BIAB, they may give him a copy today, they may give him a copy tomorrow, or PG may or never give him a copy. Once again that's between Ken and PG but immaterial to my point.

FWIW, and Ken knows this by now even if he didn't before, he could have gone to PG site a few days ago (still can) and get a copy of BIAB on a 30 trail period if he wants, there is nothing stopping him. He doesn't need yours or anybody else's activation code to get that copy - as we all know it's fully functional.

My (material) point: Even if PG had made a copy of BIAB available to Ken as soon as you first posted HERE (14 Feb) about inability to send patch changes from BIAB to VSTSynthfont, via the 3rd party IL Minihost VSTi that was hosted within BIAB it would not have helped Ken since, the issue was IL Minihost, NOT BIAB. I know I looked at this config and reported back same as did others.

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=581087&page=1

Ken could have found that out just by using IL Minihost and VSTsynthfont within any free DAW - in the end the issue was/is really between Ken and ImageLine.


So what am I missing relative to the actual initial issue that started this whole discussion? What was, or is, so imperative that PG get a copy to Ken with respect to your initial technical issue?

My position on this was not and IS NOT whether PG might not consider giving a copy to Ken for future proofing or as a consideration for Ken allowing PG to distribute the non-free version 3 of his product, my position is that is just a separate discussion.


Larry

PS

Some history a lot of us will remember IK Multimedia’s SampleTank 2 free use to be provided with BIAB and a version of AmplTube's VST (assuming you install it) is still provided.

But back when ST2 Free was provided there had been USER issues with using SampleTank, usually SampleTank but sometimes AmpliTube. Issues were usually one of two things: authorizations and issues on how to make ST2 work with BIAB like the USER thought it should work.

Yet I don't remember a public cry for PG to handover BIAB to IK so that IK could troubleshoot (FWIW in my experience with IK - they wouldn't have anyway).

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