Hi would just like to say thankyou to all who said i should take a look at RealBand,because i am so pleased with my upgrade to BB RB 2010 ,both are a joy to use ,there are many things to learn ,and any problems i have had up to now ,most are covered in the bb,rb forums and the kind folk on here,which is lucky for me lol,any way thanks again ,must push on and learn some more,best wishes Brian