|
Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 122
Apprentice
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 122 |
Here is my version of my original song. You may have heard Russell's version this week. He did a great job. I was listening to different styles so that I could understand the difference between swing and even drums, and ended up getting caught up in doing a different version. This is it. Let me know your honest thoughts. I have some issues with it, but I will save them to see if anyone else has the same issues. Everything is up for discussion - lyrics, production, mixing, etc. Your input on my first song helped me to make tremendous progress and I truly appreciate it, so keep it coming. The only thing I will say is that it sounds a little alt-rock due to the lack of harmonies in the chorus. I couldn't figure out how to do that. It also needs a wee bit of countrification, but I couldn't find anything that worked for me. Thanks for listening and thanks in advance for your feedback. BTW, one question for you - What do you think is the title of the song? What would you ask the DJ to play if you wanted to hear this song? You can get to the song by going here.
Ricky
________
Songwriter-Artist
RickyHarris.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,109 |
Ricky,
I think the faster tempo of your version makes the surprise ending even more surprising, because it leads the listener's expectations down a totally different path. If I hadn't already heard the first version, knowing what was coming, I would have presumed this song to be about a girl who is boy-crazy in a different way. If it is your goal to set an expectation, then reveal an alternative meaning, this version does that for me.
Good job! Clever idea!
Last edited by Pat Marr; 02/01/10 02:32 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,199
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,199 |
Hi Ricky, I just love this type of music. Very lively and bouncy. Loved how you used very subtle use of echo on certain words. I must admit that the tempo change needs (in my opinion) more work to fit it in to the overall song ( the idea is good) Try doubling or trebling you voice on the chorus. You can just copy a track and time shift/pitch shift to get the effect you want, experiment.  I usually just sing the song about 3 or 4 times and choose the best vocal by mixing and matching individual words, then merging into one final track. Well done This one is very good. P.S. Title I would think of as I listen :- Dance the night away regards michee
Windows 11 64 bit, Biab 2024 1111, Realband 2024
i7 Desktop Computer 16Gb Memory
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 1,696
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 1,696 |
Hi Ricky - Good song, great lyrics and I would have liked to hear more of them but sometimes they get lost in the mix. Could you post them?
I wish Soundclick offered the EQ adjustments of Windows Media Player because I would have liked to have seen what a difference a boost in the 125-500 hz range would have made to the overall sound. IMO I think the mix needs a boost in the lower midrange.
As for song title . . . the one phrase I kept hearing was "Can't Get Enough" - seems to suit the enthusiasm of the love story AND the tempo . . .it could also be coupled well in a line "Lost in love, can't get enough" and inserted in enough places in the song to leave a lasting "hookline".
As for countrification - do you have a fav artist you'd like to hear singing this tune? Listen carefully to his mixes of similar tempoed songs - bet you'll find your answer that way.
Hope that's helpful - good stuff - Ian
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,714
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6,714 |
Ricky,
I like the song, especially the twist on the ending. In my mind's eye I was viewing a video through the entire tune. Nice work.
Later,
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,610
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,610 |
Great stuff, Ricky! Added this one to one of my SC stations!
Cheers,
Mike
Cheers, Mike My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,427
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,427 |
Can only be called "Lost In Love", surely!
I agree with George above, this sort of pop song needs double tracking on the lead vox. I'd then sing a harmony (or two) every time the words 'lost in love' occur, to push the hook line home. Bass needs bringing up, I couldn't catch it and this kind of driving pop needs driving bass.
A good song, nicely done. Thanks for posting.
John
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 122
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 122 |
Thanks for the input and kind words.
I was concerned that there might be too much bass so I dropped it way down. I will tweak that.
As for doubling the vocal, I actually have done that but I've lowered the second voice significantly because it sounded robotic otherwise. Am I doing it wrong? Do I need more of a shift? How much do y'all shift? I couldn't figure out how to time shift so I pasted in the smallest space I could. Maybe it wasn't enough.
Michee - How do you go about mixing and matching words on various tracks? Are you copying and pasting? Mac had mentioned something about envelopes but I couldn't find any info on it.
Pat - Yes, that was the idea. I am glad you got it. Makes me happy. :-)
Ricky
________
Songwriter-Artist
RickyHarris.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,199
Expert
|
|
Expert
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,199 |
Hi Ricky,
I go about a vocal track this way (If I was you I would just try a small file for a start - to get the hang of it.)
I sing maybe 3 or four times so I have 3 or four tracks to work with - I find (especially with me) that I don't sing the same every time.
I sing these in BiaB then I save them individually with different names i.e. michee1, michee2 etc ( by renaming the song)
I then import the wav files into a Daw program that allows better editing of wav files (I use MC5 but wish RealBand was easier)
Using the 1st and 2nd tracks, I highlight a word at a time and play/listen to them (I do this with all words - takes a long time but worth it)
I remove any horrible audible breathing noise from the words.
At the same time I listen for the best sounding word that fits with the song.
What I mean by that is, some words sound sweeter/grainier/harder/laid back/ whatever you decide- it's your choice.
Once I have decided on a particular word I then delete the other matching word on the other tracks that I have discarded and so on.
When I am finished I have four tracks with bits of words scattered throughout the song - try it it works.
When I am happy with the song vocals I then merge them into one track on their own.
There I can add any effect that I deem appropriate.
As to doubling the vocals I sometimes try the SlapBack Echo just to hear what sort of effect that has on the vocal then remove it.
Then I take the Vocal Files that I have discarded (remember I have saved them in BiaB) and add them all to the mix and try time shifting/pitch shifting etc...
This is how I do it but I am aware there are other ways to accomplish the same.
Best Regards
michee
Windows 11 64 bit, Biab 2024 1111, Realband 2024
i7 Desktop Computer 16Gb Memory
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,427
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,427 |
Ricky Also, here's an excellent article on double tracking, including how to do it for real and 'fake' (add a digital delay to the vocal at around the same level as the original part, with a delay time of 80-120ms, and then turn the feedback control to minimum so that you get only one repeat.) SOS Article - Vocal Double Tracking John
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,057
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,057 |
Ricky, this is very good. I like the faster tempo and the new ending. I really like the subtle use of delay here; that’s brilliant!
I also believe that the bass and vocal needs to come up some.
You might try a little chorus on the vocals to thicken them. Not a lot of chorus, just a tad as you don’t want to hear the chorus effect, just the thickening effect of it. Don’t ask for the settings as I have found out they vary for every singer and song.
Personally I believe this song is too good to put in an artificial harmony. Either sing it or get someone else to sing it. Real harmonies would make it air play ready IMHO.
I'm in a fitness protection program. I'm been hiding from exercise.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,646
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 2,646 |
Excellent work! Nice uptempo! Thanks for sharing! My Music My Blog
My TunesPsalm 57:7 My heart, O God, is steadfast, my heart is steadfast; I will sing and make music.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,576
Veteran
|
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,576 |
Ricky. I'm impressed. Good on ya Mate. It all sounds good to me. Nice twist on the rhythm and tempo.
I think the most important thing here is if you're happy with the song. Also if it has a good dance beat to it and it sounds like it does to me.
The song doesn't really sound country here. It's more like pop/rock. Also, I didn't hear any harmony in the tracks. Maybe there isn't any. I just noticed that one of the other members here mentioned about doing the harmony using your own voice. Maybe I just missed the point. Anyway, good on ya. You did just fine.
Russ Anyday above ground is a good day Computer is Hp Pavillion Vision 6 Ghz quad core AMD processor 8 Gig memory 1 TB hard drive 6 GB hard drive Windows 7 Premium Loose nut behind the keyboard 
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 122
Apprentice
|
|
OP
Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 122 |
Thanks to everyone for your help, input and kind words. I have considered the suggestions and made adjustments. Specifically, I added bass, brought the vocal forward more and tweaked the vocal doubling. I can't seem to go any farther on the doubling or it sounds artificial to me. Would love to hear it with real harmonies so if anyone has decent harmony chops, let me know. The new version is posted at http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8716182Mike - Thanks for the song add. I appreciate it. I tried to email you through SC but couldn't figure out how. John - Thanks for the article link. Very helpful. Michee - Thanks for the doubling info. I didn't understand the stretching because it is listed in percentage and I wanted milliseconds so I just copied space. Thanks again to everyone.
Ricky
________
Songwriter-Artist
RickyHarris.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 604
Journeyman
|
|
Journeyman
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 604 |
Well what can I say? This is really good, a simple "say it all" country pop song! Great singing, great composing, ***** 5 stars!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window
In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
- RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Video: New User Interface (GUI)
Join Tobin as he takes you on a tour of the new user interface in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®! This modern GUI redesign offers a sleek new look with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, and a smoother workflow. The brand-new side toolbar puts track selection, the MultiPicker Library, and other essential tools right at your fingertips. Plus, our upgraded Multi-View lets you layer multiple windows without overlap, giving you a highly flexible workspace. Many windows—including Tracks, Piano Roll, and more—have been redesigned for improved usability and a cleaner, more intuitive interface, and more!
Watch the video.
You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums57
Topics85,372
Posts791,374
Members39,862
| |
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
There are no members with birthdays on this day. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean