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If you want to learn about synthesisers I recommend a series of books by Simon Cann “How to Make a Noise”. These talk about the different types of synths Analogue, Sample Based and FM. They are available in Kindle format from Amazon at about US$2.99 each. (Kindle software for a PCs or iPad are free if you don’t have an Kindle device). The books are simple and show how sounds are created. They are not limited to either software or hardware synths. They will give you a good grounding in the subject.
Note: these books are about synths not MIDI per se.
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I will do that. Sounds like a good place to get started.
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If you're interested in expanding your hardware collection don't overlook purchasing an electric keyboard, either new or used.
If you find one that's interesting to you, look it up at the manufacturer's website before you buy. Is it midi compatible, does the website include drivers and does the keyboard have the general midi (GM) emblem somewhere on the keyboard body or literature.
The major keyboard manufacturers, especially Yamaha, Roland, Casio, are so competitive you can find a new consumer grade keyboard that sounds very good and has midi capability starting at around $200 US. Go up in price just a little and the sounds and feature list jump dramatically.
Used keyboards that sold for $200 - $800 new are fairly easy to find for much less.
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I have an old Roland keyboard and I do use it quite frequently. I wish I could say I was learning how to play well but I’m not going to push it that far.
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 All I know about playing a keyboard is if you depress three alternate white keys you've played a chord  A keyboard can be used for a lot more than playing. With a midi connection to your computer you can (1) record midi notes played on the keyboard instead of inputing the notes with a computer mouse or computer keyboard. (2) output midi from your computer to the keyboard and listen or record the audio output from the keyboard. (3) Most DAWs (not Band-in-a-Box or RealBand) accept midi commands from a keyboard to control the DAW transport and modify effects. The hard part is getting the keyboard and computer programs to communicate with each other. How to do this changes not only from program to program but also depends on what task you want to do. Do you like how the Roland sounds? If so then take advantage of what you already have!
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Yes I like the sound. But bear in mind that pisno is probably almost 30 years old. So you get basic piano, organ, electric piano, harpsichord and that’s about it. It wouldn’t be much as a synthesizer. But I do agree it’s a good item to play on with full functionality.
I also have a midi controller called Oxygen 49 which I use for inputting the midi data into the computer.
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From your description I'm guessing the Roland is not general midi (GM) compatible. So you would use it the same way you might use a single instrument soft synth; you would just be using an external single instrument sound engine instead.
The M-Audio Oxygen 49 is a popular midi controller. With it's keybed, knobs and buttons and self learning feature it is a good example of what things you can do with an external controller.
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If the Roland is something like the EP-760 (or many other pianos they made 30 years ago) it can probably also be a controller, FWIW.
I have one still (well my daughter has it currently), a very serviceable keyboard.
Just a thought. What model Roland is it? If it has a working keyboard and MIDI out, it's a controller at the very least. <grin>
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I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
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And ues it has midi in and out.
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Well I'd hook MIDI up to it and test it as a controller at least .. not much to lose. If advanced, I may even use it for sounds but controller seems your basic need and it should suffice if it has MIDI in/out connections.
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Hi all:
I'm the guy who had the too-small computer and crappy soundcard. And I had the every-five-minute crash issues.
Over the last couple weeks I got the Focusrite 18i8 and I built a new computer which is a Ryzen 3900. So no more of those crash-and-burn episodes, at least not yet.
So now I have to get the hang of all that "stuff" in Band in a Box and Real Band that deal with midi, synthesizers, and all that.
Where to start? All the menus look quite foreign.
By way of background I am essentially doing two things.
One I am making backing tracks to play a guitar against. Those usually wind up in Guitar Pro because in that application I can run the tracks on an iPad, slow them down, loop them, take them on the road on trips, etc. etc. The quality of these tracks is not that important. These tracks are just to practice with. But I do like to get midi drums, bass and other instruments in the track just for sake of rounding everything out.
The second thing is I try to make backgrounds for my sister's piano tunes. She is a real musician unlike me and these are more for listening, and not practice. She is more particular about how the finished product sounds. Not the same as my down and dirty backing tracks. My sister might use the tracks just as a karaoke background for her own playing/singing.
So that's the plan anyway.
Thanks.
Michael
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Where to start? I suggest you view the PGMusic videos: https://www.pgmusic.com/videos.bbwin.htmI am assuming that you are relatively new to this. Thus for now I would suggest you put aside your getting better MIDI sounds and learn how to use BiaB and RB. Once you are comfortable with them then you can purchase and learn how to install them and modify them in both BiaB and RB. Good luck.
OK, a random thought; Why does toilet paper need a commercial? Who's not buying it?
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