Pat Marr
i see what your saying.
and actually its appropo.
(fyi..i'm a brit , but live in canada..wifey canadian.)
two things.
1. i get the brit papers from the uk occasionally.
interstingly enough they often mention various aspects
of uk life where people often want to put in no effort
to get what they want.
this kinda bears out your point bout "slackness".
2. today after i posted the thread start , someone i know
asked me to set up their puter system.
just couldnt be bothered to set it up.
(even offered to pay me money which i politely declined
cos i dont take advantage. )
to which i replied ..
"how will you ever learn if you dont at least try a little bit yourself". ??

gary.
you made some very good points.
ive seen the same thing many times.
and much more of it in recent years.
like you i realised ages ago there were many far better
musicians than i will ever be.
many many great talents on this site and lots of others.
the sad part is here in canada for example are some exceptional
talents that the general public never hears.
slackness is everywhere if you think about it.
includeing major radio stations that stick to old known
formats and refuse to give airplay to highly talented
unknowns that are in abundance in lots of countries.
what saddens me is some young uns that both have the talent and the drive
are often dissuaded cos of the barriers often to them breaking through to
major media outlets.
other examples of slackness might include manufacturers that ship various
tech gear that isnt debugged. friends of mine have had probs with
everything from tv's thru sound devices for example.

when i was growing up in uk...my parents were good and kind.
but just didnt have lots of dough. compared to today.
so it was often "make do" etc etc.
so when i was at uni in the 60's n some of the rich kids drove bmw's ..
i trundled around on a 50 quid moped..lol.
gimme an instant coffee..lol.

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"what is the black art of audio engineering ?"
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