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Originally Posted By: berntd
...I am hoping PG Music sees this here and gets back to me about it.

Hi Berntd,
This Forum is for end users. We do know that PG Music staff sometimes step in with helpful advice, but there is no guarantee that they will review every thread. They might step in, but my additional suggestion is to contact them directly, through their support email, and reference this thread.

I do hope this helps and that you can resolve your issue.

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How does one reference these threads here Trevor?


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Hi Berntd.

With the specific thread opened, just copy and past the URL from the top of your browser into an email.

You can use the following if you wish. Select the entire following string, right-click and select Copy, in your email to PG Music support, right click and selected Paste:

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=596253&gonew=1#UNREAD

Separately, I will also send a support email to PG Music on your behalf, referencing this issue and this thread.

Good Luck (again)


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OK, I've separately sent an email to Support, referencing this thread.


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You are very kind. Thank you so much!


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berntd,
just a thought...
Recently I had issues with BIAB playing and failed renderings. I tried switching drivers, etc. Nothing helped. I did factory settings reset and that solved it.

If it was not suggested earlier, maybe try it? It takes less than a minute and it does not involve reinstalling software. If you want to give it a shot:
Options->Return to factory settings.

One other thing you can try is loading Windows with minimal set of driver/program load and see if issue persists. Also upping the buffer on Asio4All...

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Your initial post shows your computer has 136 active tasks - this is far to many - a well trimmed win 7 computer only has between 45 to 55 tasks running. It does not have time to do justice to Biab. Why have chrome running at the same time? close it. What else is running unnecessarily? Stop all programs you are not using. See if that makes a difference.

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Originally Posted By: berntd
... Unticking the USE VST box in the Midi driver setup will also fix it.

Yes, I thought this might be the case. That's why I earlier asked: "What happens if you don't load any VST's at all? Does that make a difference?"


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No, hang on, I may have misunderstood that at the time. That was related to the resource testing. I did that by killing the running VST in task manager and it did not fix the issue. I replied to that further up.

This problem is a bug of sorts. I suspect something that should not, is sending rubbish on MIDI and Cakewalk is reacting to it.

Can you reproduce it?


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Further testing progress:

With the problem invoked in Blue Skies, as above, I added a Melody with a few notes. This Melody is MIDI and uses the Cakewalk VST.
As soon as the first melody note plays, the problem stops and it works normally thereafter.
This also seems repeatable at the moment.

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I tried your files in your order and could not find a fault - even tried adding an intro and changing key but everything worked fine. I still beleive that your processor has to much going on. Give the processor an even chance and I think it will work - could try resetting biab to factory defaults.

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Originally Posted By: Keith44
I tried your files in your order and could not find a fault - even tried adding an intro and changing key but everything worked fine. I still beleive that your processor has to much going on. Give the processor an even chance and I think it will work - could try resetting biab to factory defaults.

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Hi Keith, did you test it with the CakeWalk VST?


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...I still beleive that your processor has to much going on. Give the processor an even chance and I think it will work - ...Keith

I agree. As well as the VirtualMIDISynth, SQLSERVR is also running, taking a fair chunk of RAM (about 250Mb). If some of those processes didn't need to run, the system might perform better.


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Further findings:

I am looking at the MIDI monitor

When I first load blue skies and it plays correctly, only a couple of MIDI messages occur at the start Then nothing as it uses Realtracks.

After following m,y sequence to get it to go crazy, heaps of MIDI messages start flying.

All coinciding with the rubbish I can hear.

See attached.

What does that mean?

EDIT: When I play the song at a really slow tempo, I can see and hear those MIDI messages causing the clicking and noise in the music.

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Three important questions:

1:
Where did the source of Blue Skies come from?

2:
Did you create it only using RealTracks or download if from a separate source?

3:
Do you have automatic RealTracks / RealDrums substitution enabled?


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Hi Trevor,

Answers...

1 I entered it myself completely.

2 Realtracks on my PC but experimented with various styles.

3 Substitution is DISABLED at this stage.


I have also RE-ENTERED it completely and it becomes exactly the same.

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Berntd, OK, Thanks for clarifying.

Do let us know if PG Music support come back to you, and how it is resolved. This could assist others in the future.


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Have just set x64 cakewalk TTS-1 as midi synth and running your schedule I experience no problems at all. Everything fine. Hope you soon resolve your problems. (also had firefox running)

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...if PG Music support come back to you...


You are not sounding very hopeful here. Do they not get back usually?


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Have just set x64 cakewalk TTS-1 as midi synth and running your schedule I experience no problems at all. Everything fine. Hope you soon resolve your problems. (also had firefox running)

Keith


Thank you Keith. Greatly appreciated!
I have no idea why there are those MIDI messages occurring over here.


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