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Hi all, a noob here!
I have recently got the latest BIAB 2020 and am in the process of updating loads of tracks done using BIAB 2010! to take advantage of the new RTs.
I had successfully rendered about a dozen or so of these to mp3 to upload to my drive, but all of a sudden, am now experiencing terminal problems.
When I save as an mp3, the yellow box appears informing me that the rendering is in process. I have discovered that rendering to my hard drive rather than an external drive speeds up the process, but now a 5 minute track won't render, and I get the 'not responding' error. To get out of this I have to close BIAB, losing my settings, and with no mp3 to show for my wait. Sometimes I walk away from the computer for 20 minutes, but no resolution takes place.
Do these tracks render in real time, i.e. a 5 minute track takes 5 minutes to render? It certainly didn't seem to take that long a couple of weeks ago!
Am I missing something obvious? Your assistance would be gratefully appreciated!


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Hit return to factor settings.


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I had similar problems, but if I waited long enough it finished. However, 20 min seems too long. I got the "not responding", too, but eventually it finished, within 6 min or so.

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Thanks for the reply - hmm, I left one for 25 minutes this morning and it still hadn't finished, and I had to close the app down to get anywhere. Another one not finished!
I had a thought though; perhaps I should open the offending file from within BIAB rather than double-clicking it from the File Manager and forcing BIAB to open that way? Worth me giving it a try later on just in case!
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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent
Hit return to factor settings.

Thanks, but I'm not sure quite what you mean - should I hit Return if the app freezes for an abnormally long time (25 minutes this morning), or to end the process without having to close down BIAB?
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Kernow,

Does saving to wma work properly? This is Windows compressed file format and it's the one that PG Music uses for its Realtracks.

If you are after a compressed file format, this may well do the job.

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Originally Posted By: sslechta
Return to Factory Settings.

Thanks, I'll give that a try! :-)


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Originally Posted By: Noel96

Does saving to wma work properly? This is Windows compressed file format and it's the one that PG Music uses for its Realtracks.

If you are after a compressed file format, this may well do the job.


I've just returned to factory settings and trying again - if that doesn't work, I'll try your idea out - thanks for replying!


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Hi all, mystery sort of solved.

If I open an old BIAB 2011 file, it refuses to render after editing, so I need to type in the chords afresh from scratch, at which point it renders in a couple of minutes.
Thanks all for your help!


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Originally Posted By: kernow
Hi all, mystery sort of solved.

If I open an old BIAB 2011 file, it refuses to render after editing, so I need to type in the chords afresh from scratch, at which point it renders in a couple of minutes.
Thanks all for your help!


Andy, that don't sound right. While 2011 is a long time ago, BIAB has always made claim of full backword compatibility with this stuff. I have files that go back well beyond 2011 and will test your hypothesis. In the mean time you did use the RTF setting button, right?


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Originally Posted By: MusicStudent

Andy, that don't sound right. While 2011 is a long time ago, BIAB has always made claim of full backword compatibility with this stuff. I have files that go back well beyond 2011 and will test your hypothesis. In the mean time you did use the RTF setting button, right?


Hi Dan, I did return to factory settings, but this didn't seem to make any difference. The rendering process still hung, and I had to use Task Manager to close the program (this was after leaving the machine well alone for 45 minutes).
On a lighter note, I managed to write and render 8 files in just over an hour, including finding the correct changes on PDF first, so all in all a success!
I would be interested to know if you have any further theories though, as time spent retyping can always be used more profitably elsewhere!


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Kernow (Andy),

You mentioned you edited your 2011 file before rendering to MP3. Did you save the file before you rendered?

What if you try to render a 2011 file before editing? I bet it will render okay.

Try loading a 2011 song file, editing and then saving the project under a new name, for example load mysong.sgu edit and then save as mysong1.sgu.

I suspect the editing is causing a mixup between the 2011 and 2020 settings.

Something else, sometimes RealBand can straighten out a song file that decides not to work in Band-in-a-Box. Load the sgu file in RealBand and then save as a sgu file with a new name. RealBand and Band-in-a-Box use settings differently. Some settings Band-in-a-Box uses, F5 settings for example, don't get used in RealBand.


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Thanks for your reply Jim, I'll give some of these options a go and report back!


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