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Nice one, Ray! Great groove. Your vocal sounds good to me. Solo wise this is way out of my comfort zone or I would offer to do one for you. Don't think blues licks would fit somehow!  But yeah I dig it, well done. Thanks Dave, IF you hear any of my stuff that you'd like to drop a line on just let me know: I'm always happy to have an ace blues flavoured solo on most of my stuff. Yep, will do.
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Oh sorry Ray. I misread your post on that.
Still I had to laugh. And to be honest; don't you agree the kitchen as a name for a pub looks better than reality?
Or is that a bad thing to say?
Would you advise me to visit it?
Stay safe,
Hans Hans, the lyrics aren't direct or obvious, nor was my explanation. I think your interpretation is as good as any - I've not required anyone to hear and understander what I heard and understood in my head...I love the idea of the pub and that perspective joins dots in different ways which is good for brains, lyrics and music after all. The song is lyrically/thematically unpleasant really, but can readily be heard as a laugh about domestic situations. I'm happy that the ambiguity gives rise to a laugh. I laughed at myself for coming up with the chorus in the shower to start with.
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Hi, Ray !
Superbly punky is your tune !
I would not mind to sweep one
at (in) The KITCHEN myself !
I´ve been to Manchester but
that was long ago and only
stopped there on our trip thru
Scotland !
Stay safe !
Cheers
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Rayc,
Yeah, this rocks . . . love that punk sound. The vocal works just fine with this, but I’d love to have it sit up just a little more in the mix. For me it’s just a tad too buried in that great guitar sound . . . though I think it’s more of a personal preference—for this type of song it stands pretty well on its own as is. I listened to both versions but thought the “Crisper” was further along. Big thumbs up for me!
All the best,
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Ray,
I like punk that doesn`t take itself seriously - your lyrics might be dark, (I got a few of them) but the sound is so pulsing growly and head banging fun, who cares!
I heard the updated track-you get into the spirit on the vocals and since its a demo your sending to vocalists I think its cool enough to attract some contenders.
Look forward to the next version.
Robert
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Ray, I think this is a very good punk song. Although I'm not a big fan of punk I think that you captured the genre quite well, although I think it is a little on the mellow side of punk.
Nice vocal and mix. Great guitar work.
A head banger for sure.
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Hi, Ray !
Superbly punky is your tune !
I would not mind to sweep one
at (in) The KITCHEN myself !
I´ve been to Manchester but
that was long ago and only
stopped there on our trip thru
Scotland !
Stay safe !
Cheers
Dani Thanks Dani, I've not been to Europe or the UK; in fact I've not ventured further than South East Asia. Thanks for your kind words.
Cheers
rayc
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Rayc,
Yeah, this rocks . . . love that punk sound. The vocal works just fine with this, but I’d love to have it sit up just a little more in the mix. For me it’s just a tad too buried in that great guitar sound . . . though I think it’s more of a personal preference—for this type of song it stands pretty well on its own as is. I listened to both versions but thought the “Crisper” was further along. Big thumbs up for me!
All the best,
Deej Thanks Deej, Once I've incorporated the vocals that a volunteer has offered, (he's not sure if he'll do a lead vocal or a backing), I'll know whether I need to re-track my own or have a better option.
Cheers
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Ray,
I like punk that doesn`t take itself seriously - your lyrics might be dark, (I got a few of them) but the sound is so pulsing growly and head banging fun, who cares!
I heard the updated track-you get into the spirit on the vocals and since its a demo your sending to vocalists I think its cool enough to attract some contenders.
Look forward to the next version.
Robert Robert, I like the idea of a dark underbelly. The music came 1st. The chorus arrived in the shower. They were a match but reasonably inscrutable so I endeavoured to keep it that way. Enough hints for those who know I suppose. I was looking for footage to make a video for the song but kept going to the obvious and literal. I'll have to start again from a more oblique angle. Thanks for your kind words.
Cheers
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Ray, I think this is a very good punk song. Although I'm not a big fan of punk I think that you captured the genre quite well, although I think it is a little on the mellow side of punk.
Nice vocal and mix. Great guitar work.
A head banger for sure. Mario, Thanks. Yes, I'm far too old and far too content to belt out a truly savage complaint. I am a fan of the era - I was 19 in 76 and at teachers' college surrounded by mellow music and sophisticated pop - it was natural that I rebel and, despite my beard, long hair, flares & love of hard rock etc, I embraced punk. I still do.
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Hello Ray ...
Yep ... has "PUNK!" written all over it. Reminded me of the late 90s, earl;y 2000s. I'm not the biggest fan of punk, but I appreciate any music that's well performed ... this qualifies. I do agree the vox could be just a wee bit louder ... even for punk. Just a personal observation, FWIW.
Best to you. Be safe ...
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Well put together. Interesting lyrics. Definitely not my favourite genre, but I found it strangely, disturbingly, infectious.
I might listen to it again when I've had "a Bex, a cup of tea, and a good lie down."
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Hi Rayc, Nice write the music has a great driving feel. I felt maybe the vocals could be a little louder as sometimes I had trouble hearing them or what you were saying. I don't listen to much punk, but I remember Joan Jett and her vocals were usually loud, sort of a yelling feel that complimented the music as angry and in your face. Interesting back story about where it came from.
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Very cool song. I love the chorus. Great instrumentation. Nice song development (from BIAB to shower lyrics to final product. Nice!) Nice nod to the Sex Pistols at the end.
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Nice gritty sound and appropriately dark (or black-humored) lyric. It's good to rush through these things sometimes. BB got you started and excited. If that ain't a "use" for it, "we" ain't listening. Your results are well worth hearing. Much enjoyed.
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We listened to both several times. I was lost in my blues/bluegrass years when punk broke so other than peripheral exposure I'm pretty naive. I was 30 in ’76 — maybe an old guy for the emerging genre  But, hey, a good production is a good production even to untutored ears. And this makes me feel I must have missed some pretty cool music during the mid 70's or so. When I came up for air Tom Petty was breaking and that detoured from me going down the punk road I guess. One of many things we like about your productions is your ability do an in your face mix and still have so much distinction amongst all the tracks. I'm clueless as to how you do that. Kind of a raw and counterintuitively polished vibe simultaneously is the best way I can describe it. We like the grit here. Grit is good. Cool guitar, vocal and is that bass every keeping things moving. Slam on… J&B PS I’m not gonna offer any “punk ain’t my thing” caveats ‘cause good music is good music…period. My niece’s husband plays in a punk band and this makes me want to pay more attention to what he’s doing.
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I love the sound of this. It brings back the memories of my youth and my garage band days. I feel 40 years younger now! Thanks!
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Very cool Ray!! I think the vocal could come up a bit. Really great vibe and attitude!! Good stuff!! Take care. Greg
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I could have sworn I heard this and commented. I must have listened and not commented. Sounds like dead-on post-punk. Reminds me of San Francisco circa 1982. Good use of BIAB. Great vocal recording. I like it (again).
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