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When I switch styles and try to generate individuals tracks I can't generate a brass track. There's one in the style, but when I select generate midi there's no option for brass. It used to be that strings would generate the brass, but now I get a yellow window saying there is no string track in the style. I'd really like to generate a brass section on some songs.


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Hi
If you are using a midi style, then you should be able to select any gm midi patch for the midi track ,providing that you have a gm synth loaded, say coyote wave table as a default vst.

If you a talking real styles then you get what was recorded as audio for the realtrack.
Some real tracks have midi score data this can be used to drive a midi synth with any midi voice/patch .
But be aware such midi data is only a transcription of what notes are played in the audio, for information and score generation, and as such will not sound as detailed as the realtrack
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I have coyote and forte. It's not really an issue of that; it's that the midistyle is not generating the midi track.


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Hello Philw,

Welcome to RealBand and to the forum.

The error message is telling you the track has no midi data. If you hover the mouse cursor over the track icon does the pop up track information say the track is midi or audio? What is the number in the "Num Event = "? Has the midi been replaced by a RealTrack at some point? Does the track have the five pin midi or dual audio icon? What style are you using? Did you use the Generate button?


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The track is designated as a midi track, complete with the 5 pin icon. The style I want to use is J_BASIE1 which shows and demos a brass section. Using the Generate Button, I'd like to just generate the brass section track, but there is no option for that. Even when I generate all BB tracks (entire song), it doesn't generate the brass section. In the past, brass was typically assigned to the strings midi channel, but that doesn't work any more. I have done this dozens of times before, so I think something has changed in the program, but don't know how to get around it.


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OK
I took the challenge.
Opened new project, made first 8 tracks BB tracks, selected that style and generated.
I ended up with 2 string tracks of which one is horns.
From there regenerating that track should be fairly easy

.. did one of your patches change?
It's just a GM brass section patch ..

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Ok, this helps narrow it down, but I still need help.... if I start from scratch, the brass section midi file will generate as did yours. But, the song I have loaded started with a different style and now I want to change the style so that I can add the brass section. So... maybe when I select the new style it is not overriding the original style for the song??? I have done this numerous times previously without a hitch, so I'm still puzzled.


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I don't know what you are doing wrong.
Just now I opened a separate SGU file using a country style.
Selected a blank track and changed it to MIDI (it was audio)
Loaded the Basie style.
Right clicked, Generate - Generate MIDI track - Strings
Ended up with the brass track ...

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Well, that's bizarre. That's exactly what I have been trying to do without success. What build of RB are you using?


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2020 build 3, haven't got around to installing 4 on this machine yet.
Suppose I could try it and see what happens..

EDIT:
Updated to build 4 and it still works as described above.

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I do this all the time and it works fine here as well.


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Am I missing some setting somewhere?



Edit: I reset to factory defaults and still cannot get this to work.

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My process is
1.make the track a midi track
2.pick a style
3.assign midi channel to the track
4. Pick a vsti/ dxi for the track
5.generate


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I have done it various ways, but followed this sequence just now and still nothing. I've got a real head-scratcher here.


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Originally Posted By: philw
I have done it various ways, but followed this sequence just now and still nothing. I've got a real head-scratcher here.


Are you sure that the track or song is not frozen?


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I wish that was it. I actually get a yellow pop up window saying "MIDI strings track was not found in the current style, so it was not generated."

It really seems that the new style is not actually loading, even though it appears in the style window and includes a brass track.


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This is indeed a weird one.
Have you rebuilt the Style Picker?

Have you tried starting with a different sgu file?

Does your RB screen show the first 8 track names in blue?

What happens if you start a new RB project, make first 8 tracks BB tracks, then generate the whole song?


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Ok, we are making progress.

At your suggestion, I tried several different sgu files. It worked on a couple of them, but not all. So... what do those files have in common? I don't know, and am not sure even what to look for.

I rebuilt the style picker several times, but that didn't change anything.

The first 8 tracks are in blue.

Starting from scratch works just fine. It's after switching styles on an already existing file that seems to be problematic.


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How old are these problematic files?
Not that it will help me solve it, but any info you can point support to may help.

If starting from scratch works fine, it leads me to believe the problem is with existing files. somehow ..


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I appreciate you helping me think this through... The file I was working on when I first noticed is a recent file. I created it just a couple weeks ago in BIAB and then started working on it in RB.


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