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Look, this is clearly something that has been discussed ad nauseam in the past, but for us who are newer to the forum...
I see a lot of posts to the effect of "here's a work around" or "here's how you can do it and not need additional tracks", etc. I suppose what I'd like to know is the "why" in regards to adding additional tracks. If it's some sort of band width/storage issue, totally fine....I've just not seen anyone say "no, that can't happen, and here's why". In your particular workflow, and others that use a similar workflow, the "why" is easy to explain and implement. 1. You routinely use a similar 9 piece band in your song creations 2. Occasionally you add three tracks of a string instrument 3. You already have a folder and naming system in place. There's nothing for you to drastically change to your normal workflow. 4. Rather than export individual WAV's like you do now, there's a one click selection in BIAB that will export your file to a folder, name it and save a WAV or WMA file of your choosing, Freeze the track and change the color of the track making it much more obvious the track is "frozen" and an exact copy of the frozen track has been saved. This is repeatable over and over. 5. The one click function is much faster than what you do currently. It also adds a great deal of versatility to the complexity and arrangements to the tracks you export to Logic for mixing thus saving you time in mixing as well. 6. You can learn everything there is to know about this one click button in less than 5 minutes. It's not a work around (it already has a button)  and you can do it and not need additional tracks or have to learn convoluted, hidden techniques. It also automatically gives the option to not only export the discrete tracks but combine several discrete tracks or the Style as a submix or stem with or without effects. It's been a feature since 2014, works flawlessly without bugs and works the same with every media compatible with BIAB. That's Midi, Midi Super Tracks, RealTracks, RealDrums, Loops and live or Pre-recorded Audio in any format recognized by BIAB. It works with any combination of those media types.
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Charlie....all due respect - that's not an answer to my question.
I'm asking the specific question as to why there can't be more tracks. Period.
I'm not asking how to utilize a different workflow. I'm not asking what systems are in place currently that allow me to do what I'm wanting to do.
Telling me "oh you don't need more tracks, here's what you can do..." is not an answer to my question, that's giving me a solution that I already have.
I've been working in recording studios for decades. Most of the ones I work, or have worked in, have a 32 or 48 tracks. I've never used 48, rarely even used 24. And that's certainly not what I'm looking for in BIAB. I simply would like to know IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO ADD MORE TRACKS, and if not, THEN WHY. That's all.
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Roger +1 "IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO ADD MORE TRACKS, and if not, THEN WHY." Unfortunately "Why" will not solve the issue. I would limit the choices to three. YES, NO, MAYBE. That way, if there is NO hope, time should not be wasted on this very important wish. I believe It would be fair for developers or somebody who can speak for them to give a short answer, so this can be discussed or put to rest. Pipeline, interesting. I was imagining " +" button on the mixer, which would add an extra track "on demand" right above Soloist/Melody tracks. Up to 16 total, not including Audio or Through. With extra tracks, for easy to understand/type in Bar Options, for holds, shots etc., this idea can be used: https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=83441&Number=597158#Post597158---------------------------- ClassicMan, I thank you for starting this thread and I am sorry if it went unexpected direction.
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<<< I simply would like to know IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO ADD MORE TRACKS, and if not, THEN WHY. That's all. >>>
I can't speculate on the possibilities but back in April in Rustyspoon's wishlist request for bar to bar generation, Dr. Gannon responded directly after my post to a 'work around' and his response was clear that RealBand furnishes many of these wishlist features of which 'additional tracks' is one of those type features. RealBand was his recommendation and with this request for additional tracks, RealBand gives you 40 of them.
The obstacle you guys may need to overcome is PG Music's WHAT. What is PG Music's incentive to abandon RealBand that Dr. Gannon explains has features that meet and exceed BIAB specs and adds many more tracks?
In that same post, Rustyspoon thanked Dr. Gannon for commenting on the post and said, "It is all about the workflow. I believe at least half of us (users) do not use RB for various reasons. There are a handful of avid supporters of RB, but seems most use BIAB."
I theorize you'll have convince PG Music to abandon RealBand and explain how 2 new tracks in BIAB is both better than the unlimited number you can generate today simply by learning to do the process in BIAB or doing it in the recommended program, RealBand. Then convince PG Music why you'll study and learn the in's and out's of software like Reaper, Sonar, Logic, Studio One but not BIAB or RealBand.
Dr. Gannon said they "always strive to be responsive to user requests." and "That’s not to say that we won’t add bar to bar regeneration for all tracks to BIAB. It’s a good idea and on the todo list." There's certainly hope so don't give up because I'm only speculating it's an uphill battle. It may already be on their 'to do' list. Rustyspoon's wishlist requests do receive a lot of positive responses and support and if two more tracks is what you want. It's want you want. I have no issue at all and never don't support these requests. Sharing alternative methods doesn't mean it's not a good request and I try to withhold my input to just the instances where the request assumes something can't be done in BIAB when it can. You are responding to my offer to assist a user that appears to not know his task can be done in BIAB not me rejecting the wish.
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>IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO ADD MORE TRACKS, and if not, THEN WHY."
Unfortunately "Why" will not solve the issue. I would limit the choices to three.
YES, NO, MAYBE. That way, if there is NO hope, time should not be wasted on this very important wish. I believe It would be fair for developers or somebody who can speak for them to give a short answer, so this can be discussed or put to rest.
Answer is YES. And thanks for all the inout and suggestions above.
Have Fun!
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<<< Answer is YES. And thanks for all the inout and suggestions above. >>>
And I get to give the first PLUS 1 !!!!
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Dr. Gannon, Thank you for the reply and giving hope to this!! Mario, I know it is early for celebration, but news seems to be encouraging  (don't forget to wear a mask if you are running to store to get some champagne) --- There many great music software titles out there. BIAB is a little more than a "software" to me. It is a bottomless source of inspiration with all the talent of amazing musicians ready to stand by your side. Getting back to original poster request, I believe that having more tracks in BIAB in some ways are more important than whole VST, at least to me So again, thank you for bringing up this topic!
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Dr. Gannon, Thank you for the reply and giving hope to this!! Mario, I know it is early for celebration, but news seems to be encouraging (don't forget to wear a mask if you are running to store to get some champagne) --- There many great music software titles out there. BIAB is a little more than a "software" to me. It is a bottomless source of inspiration with all the talent of amazing musicians ready to stand by your side. Getting back to original poster request, I believe that having more tracks in BIAB in some ways are more important than whole VST, at least to me So again, thank you for bringing up this topic! Yes, that is the first positive news I have heard on this subject. PS I will wear a mask when I go out to buy more beer
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Hello Peter,
Thank you so much for replying here.
It is good news to read your positive answer.
Best wishes.
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>IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE TO ADD MORE TRACKS, and if not, THEN WHY."
Unfortunately "Why" will not solve the issue. I would limit the choices to three.
YES, NO, MAYBE. That way, if there is NO hope, time should not be wasted on this very important wish. I believe It would be fair for developers or somebody who can speak for them to give a short answer, so this can be discussed or put to rest.
Answer is YES. And thanks for all the inout and suggestions above. And this, friends & neighbors, is why PG Music is a great company and BIAB is a great product. Two thumbs up.
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I'm looking forward to using the additional mixer tracks.
This has been an enjoyable conversation to read and to be a participant in.
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+1
One way would be to export the first tracks to a wav file, then load it as audio track to free the first ones then replace them by new ones and etc... but it'd be such a waste of time, so adding more empty tracks would be so appreciated...
(I think too that 16 would be so fine)
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I would like to see a few more tracks in the Mixer. With the advent of LOOPS as part of the package a few more tracks would definitely make a difference to my production efforts. My style is more Soul/RnB/Club based so once I add the rhythm loops (drum/percussion, drum loops) strings (a steady in almost all RnB/Soul) I've already consumed 4 tracks out the gate. Yes I do have a workaround that I enjoy but I believe I can get even more out of this great product with a few more tracks available.
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I'd like to see this also, so, thanks, Dr. Gannon!
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