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Varying length of individual notes in a chord #601942 06/13/20 05:56 PM Beginners Forum
Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 5 Perth, Western Australia emviar OP Newbie
OP emviar Newbie Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 5 Perth, Western Australia	How can I vary the length of individual notes in a chord in the notation mode? e.g I want to play an F chord with A, C and F but want the F to be a quarter note and the A and C to be dotted half notes.

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord emviar #601943 06/13/20 06:43 PM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Welcome. You can probably do this with MIDI tracks (yellow) if you edit the notes (using either the Notation Window or the Piano Roll Window), then freeze the track before generating to stop it being over-written. You will not be able to do this with RealTracks (green), as these are pre-recorded audio phrases (some have notation transcriptions available - changing the notation does not change the audio). BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord AudioTrack #601946 06/13/20 07:13 PM Beginners Forum
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OP emviar Newbie Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 5 Perth, Western Australia	Thanks. I am using midi, but I want to know how to vary the length of individual notes in a chord. When I enter the notes they are all assigned the same value, but I want to hold some and not others. It's part of a chord melody arrangement where some notes are held while a melody line proceeds, starting with a certain note in the chord. I hope that makes sense. In the example I gave, the melody starts with the F of the first chord and then proceeds in quarter notes. I want to hold the remaining notes in the chord to play under the melody.

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord emviar #601951 06/13/20 10:54 PM Beginners Forum
Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,110 Essex England Bob Calver Veteran
Bob Calver Veteran Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,110 Essex England	videotrack is right - you can do it with midi. but are the chords all on the same instrument like a piano? or are they on lots of instruments? either way it could be tedious. open the editable notation of the track you want to extend the notes on and you can extend the duration of individual notes but its a bit tedious if you have to do it for a complete song. look up the process in the manual. then freeze the track after you've edited the notes. but bear in mind some instruments like an organ can hold a note but others like a guitar can't as the note dies away after being plucked. personally i'd do it in RealBand as you can do it once and then cut and paste the edited part overwriting the original so it's the same for all the repeats.

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord emviar #601958 06/14/20 02:40 AM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Try this method using the piano roll: (Freeze the modified track first before generating) Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2020-06-14_22-35-41.jpg (50.75 KB, 94 downloads) 2020-06-14_22-37-20.jpg (41.53 KB, 94 downloads) 2020-06-14_22-41-39.jpg (35.48 KB, 93 downloads) Last edited by VideoTrack; 06/14/20 02:43 AM. Reason: more work with screen captures to show more clarity BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord emviar #601959 06/14/20 02:53 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,033 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,033 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	Or, in Editable Notation Mode, right-click on an individual note and change its duration. Tedious, yes, for an entire song but quick for a few notes here and there. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord Matt Finley #601966 06/14/20 03:15 AM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Yes, this can be achieved in editable notation mode. However, be careful with what the 'visual' appearance of note lengths is when using the notation display. The G note appears to be displayed as just two beats long. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) 2020-06-14_22-41-39.jpg (35.48 KB, 89 downloads) 2020-06-14_23-09-02.jpg (93.68 KB, 89 downloads) 2020-06-14_23-16-14.jpg (114.29 KB, 88 downloads) Last edited by VideoTrack; 06/14/20 03:17 AM. Reason: more information BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord AudioTrack #601975 06/14/20 04:23 AM Beginners Forum
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 23,216 Hamlin NY	I'm in agreement with VideoTrack. I find it much easier to do tasks like this in the piano roll view than in the notation view. Also note that in the piano roll view you can select a number of notes and lengthen or shorten all of them at once. Whenever I get something stuck in the back of my throat, I dislodge it by drinking a beer. It's called the Heineken Maneuver. 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord MarioD #601976 06/14/20 04:30 AM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: MarioD Also note that in the piano roll view you can select a number of notes and lengthen or shorten all of them at once. Great point Mario, thanks for mentioning that. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord emviar #601997 06/14/20 07:23 AM Beginners Forum
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DebMurphy Journeyman Joined: Oct 2017 Posts: 745 Ohio	I was watching a "masterclass" on PBS last night for violin. The students were talking about how they want the start, middle and end of a note to sound. Your explanation on this thread came to mind and I understood. No, I do not play violin - the subject was interesting though. Thanks all! ...Deb

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord emviar #601998 06/14/20 08:30 AM Beginners Forum
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,033 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,033 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	I wanted to clear up what might be confusing between my posts and VideoTrack's. Editable Notation Mode in BIAB can mean two things. His diagrams are referring to the third choice of mode, which I call the piano roll, using a term familiar in most audio software. I was referring to the second mode, in which the duration is adjusted using only numbers, specifying the number of beats and ticks where 120 ticks (usually) is a quarter note. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord emviar #602066 06/14/20 08:14 PM Beginners Forum
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OP emviar Newbie Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 5 Perth, Western Australia	Thanks for your responses, I'll experiment with the options. I wanted to upload an image of the score I was trying to notate but can't see any upload function. How do you include graphics in a post?

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord emviar #602067 06/14/20 10:06 PM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: emviar ...I wanted to upload an image of the score I was trying to notate but can't see any upload function. How do you include graphics in a post? Posting an image: This post should give you the required clues BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord AudioTrack #602068 06/14/20 11:32 PM Beginners Forum
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OP emviar Newbie Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 5 Perth, Western Australia	Ok I see the File Manager now that I'm using Chrome. I couldn't see it in Edge. This is the intro of the song I'm trying to notate. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Jazz Guitar Solos Don Andrews.jpg (105.38 KB, 68 downloads) How About You opening

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord emviar #602092 06/15/20 03:33 AM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	Originally Posted By: emviar Ok I see the File Manager now that I'm using Chrome. I couldn't see it in Edge. ... Glad you got it resolved. I'm only being facetious, but I'm frankly not that surprised. Edge? Oh, wow. Whatever were they thinking? BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord AudioTrack #602174 06/15/20 12:19 PM Beginners Forum
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rharv Veteran Joined: May 2000 Posts: 22,165 Mi., USA	Originally Posted By: VideoTrack Glad you got it resolved. I'm only being facetious, but I'm frankly not that surprised. Edge? Oh, wow. Whatever were they thinking? Tried the new Edge Chromium? I hated IE/Edge for 15 years .. The new Chromium version is different .. much better IMO. Yep, believe it or not MS built the newest Edge on the Chromium (Chrome) base .. and added 4k video to a browser to boot (requires 4k monitor of course). It's actually kinda nice. As a developer, there are actually useful development tools now (much like Chrome) What's surprising to me is it doesn't appear they are forcing it in updates .. or really even suggesting it. If you have it, the logo/icon is obviously much different https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4501095/download-the-new-microsoft-edge-based-on-chromium /we now return you to your regularly scheduled program/ Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) EdgeChromium.jpg (4.66 KB, 47 downloads) Last edited by rharv; 06/15/20 12:32 PM. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord emviar #602176 06/15/20 12:33 PM Beginners Forum
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,033 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY Matt Finley Veteran
Matt Finley Veteran Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 27,033 Hudson Valley & Lake George NY	The new Edge works quite well on my Windows P.C. BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord rharv #602224 06/16/20 01:03 AM Beginners Forum
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OP emviar Newbie Joined: Jan 2020 Posts: 5 Perth, Western Australia	Originally Posted By: rharv What's surprising to me is it doesn't appear they are forcing it in updates .. or really even suggesting it. If you have it, the logo/icon is obviously much different https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4501095/download-the-new-microsoft-edge-based-on-chromium /we now return you to your regularly scheduled program/ Thanks a lot for that. I've installed it and the first thing I've discovered is that it works with tonebase.co, which wouldn't accept the old version of Edge.

Re: Varying length of individual notes in a chord emviar #602238 06/16/20 02:58 AM Beginners Forum
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AudioTrack Veteran Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 20,313 Melbourne, Australia	All, this is good. We're getting somewhere with some browsers, finally. BIAB & RB2025 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

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