Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 2 of 2 1 2
Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 259
C
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
C
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 259


Thanks, Pipeline! Dragging a MIDI file into my DAW is how I currently get the tempo map imported, and it didn't occur to me to try that with a plugin MIDI track. Should have known you would have found a way :-)


Chuck Wiggins

BIAB 2023 Win UltraPak, Cakewalk, Windows 10 Pro
Custom AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core, Focusrite Scarlett 4x4 interface

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chuckwigginsmusic
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR1cGfP_abwQWwhX6TRcYsg
Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 5,824
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 5,824
JJJ,
"But in reality this plugin is not nearly as "stable and capable" as Kontakt. Nor is the GUI as user-friendly. So, given those facts..."

Well, I rather see it become stable and capable (and perhaps pretty too) than settle for the one that does something only half way. I was out of discussion, because I felt first release was way to raw. Recent update was a big one and in a way a good pivoting point. All I am saying, little steps will not bring it home. One more BIG push is needed to make it right, not specifically to me, but for future users.

*Volumes are NEEDED! (Pans would be nice too) smile smile smile

All my whining about plugin because I feel it is still young and there still a time to correct the mistakes of youth, before it is way too late. I would not write this if I did not care about it or just to argue for the sake of argument smile

Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
P
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
P
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
..Here is a rendering I did of how I would like to see the plugin. Just a drawing, which I hope you find entertaining.


What if you take feedback from users to add/modify things they would use in the example GUI then using skins the user can select what they need or don't need to use. If they just want a basic thing they can hide the volume pan sliders/levels. Though the code to add simple wav playback levels/meters via the vst would be simple and basic to do as it's just adjusting the playback level of the generated wav in the local folder as it may be a lot louder or softer than other tracks, as mentioned all the time spent on the Plugin for the last 2 years was not spent on the GUI. You must have a decent GUI and not make do with something homemade.
You know how VideoTrack made the Concept video and that led to the Ctr+T compact view with Tabbed icons in Biab.
It has taken 2 years for user feedback to have any effect on the BiabPlugin GUI, this way it can be built here then when it's done can be implemented into the actual BiabPlugin GUI.
Creating Skins

Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,856
R
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
R
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,856
I posted this in beta for Mac:

So let me run this by everyone for your thoughts. They are ready to start the 2021 version. if you notice 2.9.41 can only go a bit more before it becomes 3.0

I would love to see them spend whatever time is left this year before they move on to other projects on fixing the few little bugs left. Then we will see what suggestions, and or ideas they implement in 2021.

Here are few asks from the forums that many favor.

1. Real Synchronization with the DAW clock. ( this would require them to use the zplane time-stretch .ddl in real-time to stretch audio playback to the host for true ins sync follow the clock synchronization. ) right now it only follows until there is a change then must be reset. This is really in effect tempo mapping

2. ARA2 Chord/key communications to share or send the chord chart back and forth to the DAW. What a game changer that would be in truly tying this thing to the DAW like it is in RB but instead in Logic/Reaper/Studio one/Cubase/etc

3. Cleaned up and modernized GUI (see the ideas from Pipeline and Rusty Spoon)

4. The support for Multitrack drums or as Tobin called them stems. what a cool add in tool that could be.

5. More BiaB RT features with in the plugin. I.E. Direct in or Medley function. These have been ask for repeatedly

6. Add in Volume/Pan sliders. Many want them many don't still it they are there then you can either use them or not.

7. Tabbed bar for the chords and tracks windows. What a useful feature it cleans up workspace and adds functionality


We all know that just about every change made this year brought back bugs that were fixed earlier or even last year. Changes bring issues, issues slowly get handled. Stabilize it now with bug fixes and the develop these features for the next release now only a few months away..

I also propose that in 2021 when the new release hits there is a install option to allow the user to install the new 3.0 along side whatever stable version we end up with this year. This is so that while the growing pains of a new release are in full swing we can still use the stable one without new bugs and not having to roll back.

Last edited by Rob Helms; 06/28/20 02:32 AM.

Lenovo Win 10 16 gig ram, Mac mini with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2022, Realband, Harrison Mixbus 32c version 9.1324, Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app, Komplete 49 key controller.
Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 5,824
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 5,824
Pipeline.
The tab view... (Thank you Videotrack!) I believe you were the one to show it to me smile I strongly disagree with the interface with those huge colorful buttons. I mentioned this in another post which fully mirrors what you said. Modular is the way to go Biab or Plugin. Display and use what you need, hide the rest. Tabbed view solved that well in BIAB, why not use same or similar idea in plugin? For example "custom" tab can be used to add custom views or functions/shortcuts.

___

Rob,
If the "stabilizing" will leave ample room for future development sure! But I was under the impression from other discussions that the further you are into programming, the harder it is to go back to make room or adjust to implement core features.(I do consider volumes as a core feature)

Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 15,613
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 15,613
Rustyspoon, thanks for the suggestions and graphics. Much appreciated.
btw) We have a new release of the plugin 2.8.41 (June 22, 2020) that has a lot of new features.

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=603296#Post603296

There’s a video describing it too https://youtu.be/2KY4-VTk-ks



Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
PG Music Inc.
Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 21,047
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 21,047
Originally Posted By: PeterGannon
Rustyspoon, thanks for the suggestions and graphics. Much appreciated.
btw) We have a new release of the plugin 2.8.41 (June 22, 2020) that has a lot of new features.

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=603296#Post603296

There’s a video describing it too https://youtu.be/2KY4-VTk-ks



Thanx Peter for sharing that video. It looks like the VST is going to very useful to me now!


My goal this weekend is to move just enough each day so that no one pokes me to see if I'm dead or not.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Band-in-a-Box VST and Pro Tools/AAX DAW Plugin (Windows)
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 5,824
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 5,824
Peter,
Thank you for your feedback!
Yes, I tried the latest release. It is a huge step up, but I feel it needs one more BIG push to make it prime.

Also I kindly ask you to think about the graphics. I feel that amazing piece of software is diminished by the looks. And "looks" are the easiest of all tasks to tackle. My skills are VERY mediocre, but if needed I will gladly help making buttons or such.

Misha.

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 2 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Blake - PG Music 

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box User Video Tutorials!

If you've reviewed our Support page, you've probably noticed the Videos page, which separates our Band-in-a-Box® tutorial videos by category: Overview, VST DAW Plugin, Setup, Beginner, Intermediate, Advanced, and there's even an Archive category to go down memory lane... (You'll also find these videos on our YouTube Channel.)

It's always great to hear how other Band-in-a-Box® users create their songs, especially when they explain in detail what they're doing. Like Henry Clarke's YouTube Channel, Henry Clarke - Senior Musicians Unite! There you'll find his ALL Band-in-a-Box Tutorials playlist with over 50 videos! His top-three most watched videos include "How to Get Started with Band-in-a-Box," "How I use the Audio Chord Wizard in Band-in-a-Box," and "How to Create An Effective Solo Using Band-in-a-Box" - however he touches on many other topics and also demonstrates his own Band-in-a-Box® songs in the Band-in-a-Box Created Songs playlist!

You're guaranteed to find some helpful videos when you visit Henry Clarke's channel!

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Italian for Windows is Here!

Ci siamo dati da fare e abbiamo aggiunto oltre 50 nuove funzionalità e una straordinaria raccolta di nuovi contenuti, tra cui 222 RealTracks, nuovi RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 3, Playable RealDrums Set 2, due nuovi set di "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 e altro ancora!

Tutti Pacchetti | Nuove Caratteristiche

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 French for Windows is Here!


Band-in-a-Box® 2024 apporte plus de 50 fonctions nouvelles ainsi qu'une importante de contenus nouveaux à savoir : 222 RealTracks, des RealStyles nouveaux, des SuperTracks MIDI, des Etudes d'Instruments, des Prestations d'Artistes, des "Morceaux avec Choeurs", un Set 3 de Tracks Jouables, un Set 2 de RealDrums Jouables, deux nouveaux Sets de "RealDrums Stems", des Styles XPro PAK 6, des Xtra Styles PAK 17 et bien plus encore!

Tous Packages | Nouvelles Fonctionnalités

Video: Making a Song with Band-in-a-Box®, ChatGPT, and Synth V

Take your Band-in-a-Box® project to a whole new level when you incorporate ChatGPT and Synth V to add lyrics and vocals to your song!

We wanted to demonstrate how this is done with our video, where we show you how to go from nothing to a finished "radio ready" modern pop song by combining the features of Band-in-a-Box®, ChatGPT, and Synth V!

Listen to the finished song, so you get a listen to the finished product: https://demos.pgmusic.com/misc/behindthefame.m4a

If you like it, watch the video. Either way, let's hear your comments!

Henry Clarke: Revolutionize Your Band-in-Box® Tracks with Regenerating Function

One of the new features added with Band-in-Box® 2024 is the Tracks Window, which will look familiar if you've worked with other DAWs.

Henry Clarke explains why he loves the Re-generation function within the Tracks Window in their video Revolutionize Your Band-in-Box® Tracks with Regenerating Function.

Watch video.

Learn even more about what the Tracks Window can do with our video Band-in-a-Box® 2024: The Tracks Window.

User Video: Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box®

The Bob Doyle Media YouTube channel is known for demonstrating how you can creatively incorporate AI into your projects - from your song projects to avatar building to face swapping, and more!

His latest video, Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box, he explains in detail how you can use the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box with ACE Studio. Follow along as he goes from "nothing" to "something" with his Band-in-a-Box MIDI Melodist track, using ACE Studio to turn it into a vocal track (or tracks, you'll see) by adding lyrics for those notes that will trigger some amazing AI vocals!

Watch: Next-Level AI Music Editing with ACE Studio and Band-in-a-Box


Band-in-a-Box® 2024 German for Windows is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 für Windows Deutsch ist verfügbar!

Wir waren fleißig und haben über 50 neue Funktionen und eine erstaunliche Sammlung neuer Inhalte hinzugefügt, darunter 222 RealTracks, neue RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, "Songs with Vocals" Artist Performance Sets, abspielbare RealTracks Set 3, abspielbare RealDrums Set 2, zwei neue Sets von "RealDrums Stems", XPro Styles PAK 6, Xtra Styles PAK 17 und mehr!

Paket | Was ist Neu

Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics81,979
Posts739,581
Members38,630
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
Newest Members
JOSEP ALEXANDER, usahrani, deathbydrone2045, Henreo, Lzn
38,630 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 145
musocity 131
rsdean 95
DC Ron 95
dcuny 90
Today's Birthdays
aminull, Gemini, Tripleshakequeen
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5